[T3] Blue Coil

Sat Jan 29 18:57:20 PST 2011

????   You mean different than they've been set at for years?

On Jan 29, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Mike Fisher wrote:

> I'd look into changing the jetting in your 34 ICT's.  Every engine
> will require different jetting/tuning.
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:28 PM, James Lingenfelter
> <jimmyandcher at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> This car is Weber 34 ICT's, no FI.
>>
>> Everything in the ignition system has now been checked and is ok,  
>> except
>> possibly the distributor itself? It's a vacuum advance. I had one  
>> go bad
>> years ago, but I don't recall what problems it caused.
>>
>> If I have time, the next thing I'll look into is the fuel pump. If  
>> that's
>> the problem, I've never had one behave quite like this. They've  
>> always left
>> me stranded with no warning in the past.
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Keith Park wrote:
>>
>>> Well, by replacing parts you may have introduced another problem  
>>> that is
>>> masking the original, or perhaps adding to it.
>>>
>>> If you can work the points with a screwdriver (shock hazard, hold  
>>> with an
>>> isolated handle) and you get consistant strong spark then check  
>>> the inline
>>> resistors, OK?  Run it at night... no light show?  Then your  
>>> ignition is
>>> probably fine.
>>>
>>> Stick a fuel pressure gauge on it, that will eliminate that  
>>> possibility if
>>> that's good.  Carefully wiggle connectors,  have you cleaned the  
>>> trigger
>>> points?  Once warm try swapping out the head temp sensor with a  
>>> 100 ohm
>>> resistor but I doubt that's it.  It's a matter of isolating  
>>> things down to
>>> what is working and what is not.
>>>
>>> Do you have my FI FAQ?
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>  Results of latest test drive: Once again, I let the car idle in the
>>> driveway about 15 minutes, then drove about 1 mile before problems
>>> began; but this time the results were totally different than the  
>>> last
>>> test drive. THIS time, instead of 2 cylinders suddenly shutting down
>>> and then returning 10 seconds later, I began to feel a gradual miss
>>> which slowly developed into violent bucking under throttle; but idle
>>> remained fine, whereas it wouldn't idle at all last time.....  
>>> EXACTLY
>>> as if the car is not getting fuel. Fuel filters are brand new and
>>> clear; Fuel pump (electric) is nearly new and hasn't shown any signs
>>> of failure.... but from my experience with fuel pumps, it is still
>>> suspect.
>>>   I am back at square one. Diagnosis between the pre-coil and post-
>>> coil drives are 100% different. Unfortunately at this point, I may
>>> have to dump the car off at a shop and let them isolate it. It's a
>>> daily driver, and my wife and I are short one vehicle while I
>>> frantically replace parts and follow various rabbit trails.
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Keith Park wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep, same company that makes the auto trannies too.
>>>> The coil and condenser (capacitor) are a matched pair, as is the
>>>> coil and
>>>> the ballast resistor if it has one.  Ill be the stock T3 condensor
>>>> is not
>>>> the match for the Borg warner coil and hence the problem.  The coil
>>>> itself
>>>> is probably fine.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>>>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf  
>>>> Of Mark
>>>> Fuhriman
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:37 AM
>>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [T3] Blue Coil
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 28, 2011, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 Jan 2011 at 18:06, James Lingenfelter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, I just removed the now notorious "scummy black coil" from the
>>>>>> squareback. Some scrubbing on the side revealed it is a "Borg
>>>>>> Warner"
>>>>>> coil. Don't know much about these, I'm thinking maybe they were
>>>>>> OEM on
>>>>>> some American cars? Any way, there is a Bosch coil on the car
>>>>>> now  and
>>>>>> it is running as I write this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know anything about B-W coils. If I remember, I'll try  
>>>>> to ask
>>>>> someone tomorrow who might know something about them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I asked him today, and he never heard of B-W making  
>>>>> coils. We
>>>>> agreed that they were probably made by someone else and  
>>>>> marketed with
>>>>> the B-W name and we'd never seen one. Quality unknown....
>>>>
>>>> I have an old Borg Warner coil that I pulled off a junkyard Type  
>>>> 3 a
>>>> number of years back.  I keep it around as a spare for my car.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if this is the same Borg Warner that made radio sets in  
>>>> the
>>>> early 1900s.  Anybody know (Keith)?  I have an old B-W radio  
>>>> here that
>>>> I want to get working.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>> '69 Fastback
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