[T3] Newbie with dumb questions.

James Lingenfelter jimmyandcher at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 29 20:53:23 PST 2011


When I lived in Colorado and had the Weber 34 carbs (on a stock  
motor) jetted much smaller for the high elevation, I once got 50.....  
yes 50 mpg going over the mountains between Grand Junction and Denver  
on I-70. That was a 250 mi. trip on half a tank. After the first  
hundred miles, I panicked, thinking my fuel gauge must be broken. At  
that point I realized maybe I had the car running just a little too  
lean lol.

On Jan 29, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Keith Park wrote:

>
> Yea, that's part of the equation too, was that near sea level?
> I got some mighty good numbers up in the rockies....
>
> Keith
>
>
> I even account for tire size and rpm stuff.
>
> On 1/29/11, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>> You sure your not looking at imperial gallons?
>> With all the testing and setup Jake has done on his 2056's he  
>> doesn't get
>> near those numbers, and Im sure he's tried everything.
>>
>> Top Notch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
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>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of  
>> Brian
> Fye
>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:54 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.
>>
>> Keith,
>> These are the real MPG numbers from my engines:
>> 1904cc w/40 webers 31mpg freeway/city
>> 2110cc w/40 webers 29.5 mpg freeway/city
>> 2332cc w/48 dells 28 mpg freeway/city and 31.5 mpg all freeway at  
>> 65mph
>>
>> it can be done...
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Keith Park  
>> <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think so... even with stock CARBS, the T3 gets in the  
>>> upper 20's,
>>> with twice the HP and torque, the gas mileage is gonna go down,  
>>> you don't
>>> get something for nothing...
>>>
>>> Until you go to the REAL modern engine technology, and even then  
>>> there
> are
>>> limits.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of  
>>> Brian
>>> Fye
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:28 PM
>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>> Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.
>>>
>>> I bet I can get better thih carbs!
>>>
>>> On 1/29/11, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, but that's the lovely thing with FI... you can make it as  
>>>> lean or
>>> rich
>>>> as you want, so I set it up to the AFR that I wanted and where  
>>>> it ran
>>> right.
>>>> I did try slightly higher and lower AFR's on highway trips and  
>>>> the gas
>>>> mileage only changed by 1mpg at most.
>>>>
>>>> AFR is AFR no matter how you get there, FI or Carbs, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>>>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf  
>>>> Of Brian
>>> Fye
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:22 PM
>>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.
>>>>
>>>> Keith... was that with FI?  Send that pig to me and let me set  
>>>> up some
>>> carbs
>>>> on it for you!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And Ill promise not to whine about how my 2056 got 22MPG AT BEST.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll remember not to tell Keith my 2332 gets 29-31 mpg on carbs...
>>>>>
>>>>> The only concern I would have with a 1775cc is if you are running
>> really
>>>>> high CR for the cam in it or low end fuel with a heavy car/ 
>>>>> load.  The
>>> 90.5
>>>>> cylinders are thick walled and really don't have any issues.  I've
> lost
>>>>> track of what cam you are running.  If the cam is stockish,  
>>>>> stay below
>>>>> 8.7:1
>>>>> CR.  If the cam is stock, the 1775 will run nicely with the D- 
>>>>> Jet and
>>> some
>>>>> t4 1.8L injectors.  I've a buddy that is running this set up  
>>>>> and loves
>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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