[T3] Blue Coil

[James Lingenfelter]

    Definitely don't have a problem with that..... freezing weather  
here is a rare occasion. It's been about 75 F here every day lately.

On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Dave Hall wrote:

> Is there a warm air intake to the carbs?   Maybe you've got carb  
> ice - cold
> conditions near freezing and high humidity can be nasty to idling and
> sometimes when running.  Thios is never a problem with the stock VW  
> dual
> carbs but might be with Webers.  My Beetle with clogged intake  
> manifold
> exhaust hot-spot was terrible for that in winter, but we do get a  
> fair bit
> of damp cold (near freezing) weather.
>
> Dave.
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
> ===================
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of  
> James
> Lingenfelter
> Sent: 30 January 2011 02:28
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Blue Coil
>
> This car is Weber 34 ICT's, no FI.
>
> Everything in the ignition system has now been checked and is ok,  
> except
> possibly the distributor itself? It's a vacuum advance. I had one  
> go bad
> years ago, but I don't recall what problems it caused.
>
> If I have time, the next thing I'll look into is the fuel pump. If  
> that's
> the problem, I've never had one behave quite like this.
> They've always left me stranded with no warning in the past.
>
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Keith Park wrote:
>
>> Well, by replacing parts you may have introduced another problem that
>> is masking the original, or perhaps adding to it.
>>
>> If you can work the points with a screwdriver (shock hazard, hold  
>> with
>> an isolated handle) and you get consistant strong spark then check  
>> the
>> inline resistors, OK?  Run it at night... no light show?  Then your
>> ignition is probably fine.
>>
>> Stick a fuel pressure gauge on it, that will eliminate that
>> possibility if that's good.  Carefully wiggle connectors,  have you
>> cleaned the trigger points?  Once warm try swapping out the head temp
>> sensor with a 100 ohm resistor but I doubt that's it.  It's a matter
>> of isolating things down to what is working and what is not.
>>
>> Do you have my FI FAQ?
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>   Results of latest test drive: Once again, I let the car idle in the
>> driveway about 15 minutes, then drove about 1 mile before problems
>> began; but this time the results were totally different than the last
>> test drive. THIS time, instead of 2 cylinders suddenly shutting down
>> and then returning 10 seconds later, I began to feel a gradual miss
>> which slowly developed into violent bucking under throttle; but idle
>> remained fine, whereas it wouldn't idle at all last time..... EXACTLY
>> as if the car is not getting fuel. Fuel filters are brand new and
>> clear; Fuel pump (electric) is nearly new and hasn't shown any signs
>> of failure.... but from my experience with fuel pumps, it is still
>> suspect.
>>    I am back at square one. Diagnosis between the pre-coil and post-
>> coil drives are 100% different. Unfortunately at this point, I may
>> have to dump the car off at a shop and let them isolate it. It's a
>> daily driver, and my wife and I are short one vehicle while I
>> frantically replace parts and follow various rabbit trails.
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Keith Park wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, same company that makes the auto trannies too.
>>> The coil and condenser (capacitor) are a matched pair, as is the  
>>> coil
>>> and the ballast resistor if it has one.  Ill be the stock T3
>>> condensor is not the match for the Borg warner coil and hence the
>>> problem.  The coil itself is probably fine.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> Top Notch Restorations
>>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Mark Fuhriman
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:37 AM
>>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>>> Subject: Re: [T3] Blue Coil
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 28, 2011, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
>>>> On 27 Jan 2011 at 18:06, James Lingenfelter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, I just removed the now notorious "scummy black coil" from the
>>>>> squareback. Some scrubbing on the side revealed it is a "Borg
>>>>> Warner"
>>>>> coil. Don't know much about these, I'm thinking maybe they were  
>>>>> OEM
>>>>> on some American cars? Any way, there is a Bosch coil on the car
>>>>> now  and it is running as I write this.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know anything about B-W coils. If I remember, I'll try to
>>>> ask someone tomorrow who might know something about them.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I asked him today, and he never heard of B-W making coils. We
>>>> agreed that they were probably made by someone else and marketed
>>>> with the B-W name and we'd never seen one. Quality unknown....
>>>
>>> I have an old Borg Warner coil that I pulled off a junkyard Type 3 a
>>> number of years back.  I keep it around as a spare for my car.
>>>
>>> I wonder if this is the same Borg Warner that made radio sets in the
>>> early 1900s.  Anybody know (Keith)?  I have an old B-W radio here
>>> that I want to get working.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> '69 Fastback
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