[T3] Happy New Year

Mike Fisher fisherfarms at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 08:38:11 PST 2012


Whoops, the '54 was probably still 6V?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Mike Fisher <fisherfarms at gmail.com> wrote:
> We just moved farther North to get out of the Heat!  We had an ice
> cube cooled 12V air conditioner sitting on the tunnel of our '54 Ford
> wagon in CA.
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>> As long as the dry ice vapours are vented externally it might be OK, but I
>> can't think it's as easily replenished as ice.   It might be less kind on
>> some plastics.   That was quite an eye-opener for me when I came to the
>> first invasion - ice at every filling station.  It's not something we need
>> in the UK!
>>
>> Dave.
>> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
>> Stiefel
>> Sent: 03 January 2012 15:58
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Happy New Year
>>
>> I wonder if dry ice would last longer in this.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dave Hall
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:35 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Happy New Year
>>
>>
>> An interesting alternative for lower-powered classic vehicles is to have an
>> ice-box (literally) and re-circulate the cabin air though that!
>> The electric vehicle forum at
>> http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5527 suggests that.
>> They also confirm the 600W rating needed for electric compressors, but you
>> have obviously done that research already.
>>
>>
>> We don't have a serious problem over here for excessive heat, though I do
>> appreciate the air-con on our nearly-new Golf (Rabbit) on occasion.  I
>> recall 110F in the Central Valley in California when over for the Oregon
>> Invasion, and certainly needed it there for comfort.  However, the vent-wing
>> windows on a Type 3 are better than many modern cars to catch a breeze.
>>
>> Maybe we need a chute into the airbox so we can shovel ice in there, but
>> check your drains first!
>>
>> Dave.
>> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
>> ===================
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
>> Stiefel
>> Sent: 03 January 2012 02:08
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Happy New Year
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be an interesting project, but keep in mind that the generator
>> output is limited to 30 A total. So you probably can't count on diverting
>> more than 10 A to an electric A/C compressor.
>>
>> The car needs the rest to run the FI fuel pump, the FI brain & injectors,
>> and the ignition. If you need wipers and/or headlights things get worse.
>>
>> One thing I should do someday would be to measure normal current consumption
>> at cruising speed with various loads turned on.
>>
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>> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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>>
>> The electric compressors they use on hybrids I think pulls about 50 A. Using
>> the stock generator would be out of the question with this unless I could
>> put an extra marine battery on it and charge between trips. Doubt I would
>> get much millage out of that. If I went this way I would have to come up
>> with an alternator set up putting out at least 80 A. The first concern I
>> would have with this is how well it would fit or seal up around where the
>> generator goes so there is not so much hot engine compartment air being
>> sucked up around it. The other would be how much of a strain would be on a
>> stock FI engine. Like I said this is kind of last on the list so who know I
>> may just drive it between early October and late April.
>>
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