[T3] Happy New Year

[Mike Fisher]

We just moved farther North to get out of the Heat!  We had an ice
cube cooled 12V air conditioner sitting on the tunnel of our '54 Ford
wagon in CA.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:
> As long as the dry ice vapours are vented externally it might be OK, but I
> can't think it's as easily replenished as ice.   It might be less kind on
> some plastics.   That was quite an eye-opener for me when I came to the
> first invasion - ice at every filling station.  It's not something we need
> in the UK!
>
> Dave.
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Stiefel
> Sent: 03 January 2012 15:58
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Happy New Year
>
> I wonder if dry ice would last longer in this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dave Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:35 AM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Happy New Year
>
>
> An interesting alternative for lower-powered classic vehicles is to have an
> ice-box (literally) and re-circulate the cabin air though that!
> The electric vehicle forum at
> http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5527 suggests that.
> They also confirm the 600W rating needed for electric compressors, but you
> have obviously done that research already.
>
>
> We don't have a serious problem over here for excessive heat, though I do
> appreciate the air-con on our nearly-new Golf (Rabbit) on occasion.  I
> recall 110F in the Central Valley in California when over for the Oregon
> Invasion, and certainly needed it there for comfort.  However, the vent-wing
> windows on a Type 3 are better than many modern cars to catch a breeze.
>
> Maybe we need a chute into the airbox so we can shovel ice in there, but
> check your drains first!
>
> Dave.
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Stiefel
> Sent: 03 January 2012 02:08
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Happy New Year
>
>
>
>
> It would be an interesting project, but keep in mind that the generator
> output is limited to 30 A total. So you probably can't count on diverting
> more than 10 A to an electric A/C compressor.
>
> The car needs the rest to run the FI fuel pump, the FI brain & injectors,
> and the ignition. If you need wipers and/or headlights things get worse.
>
> One thing I should do someday would be to measure normal current consumption
> at cruising speed with various loads turned on.
>
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> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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>
> The electric compressors they use on hybrids I think pulls about 50 A. Using
> the stock generator would be out of the question with this unless I could
> put an extra marine battery on it and charge between trips. Doubt I would
> get much millage out of that. If I went this way I would have to come up
> with an alternator set up putting out at least 80 A. The first concern I
> would have with this is how well it would fit or seal up around where the
> generator goes so there is not so much hot engine compartment air being
> sucked up around it. The other would be how much of a strain would be on a
> stock FI engine. Like I said this is kind of last on the list so who know I
> may just drive it between early October and late April.
>
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