I'm just trying to get my "personal" curb (kerb) weight down to 200# That's 14.4 stones for you Dave. :-) The holiday dinners, chocolates, crackers and dips were not kind to me. These RVers sure like their Happy Hours around the Holidays. Gary "Frito" - '69 Variant, FI, MT Rockport, TX (winter) Lake Geneva, WI (summer)