[T3] Rear torsion replacement

[Keith Park]

Well, that's what you rally need to get beyond in the VW world, new is
better, your about to find out that most of the "new" parts out there,
especially the rubber stuff is of far inferior quality to the OEM stuff and
not only doesn't it fit properly, but they start to disintegrate the minute
you get the job done.  Shocks are a 10 minute job, at best, the torsion bar
adjustments will tie the car up all weekend, I HATED the new bushings I got
and didn't even use all the new ones, they fit horribly.

At over 300Kmi when I did this, the rear suspension was really in fine shape
and it spends a lot of its life hauling heavy loads and trailers on the
highway.  I did it because I was doing a total restoration and everything
was apart so I cant offer any real practical advice in doing it when the car
is together other than take a break once in a while and make super sure you
make the same adjustment on both sides to keep it even across the rear.
There is never enough suspension travel in the rear, even at stock height so
once I got it back up I kept the air shocks on it so I could haul the heavy
loads again. If you lower it at all don't even plan on having anyone in the
back seat, their Butt will complain in short order!

Oh, those memories!

Keith


Top Notch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Klein
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:50 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Rear torsion replacement

Not tires, shocks bad, looking for swap advice. And I can push the car up
and down really easy. Already spent the money might as well get a fresh new
suspension out of it :)

Sent from the desk of Robert Klein 


On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:17 PM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> That's not likely to change any "flopping in the wind", that problem is
most
> likely tires, if you have Nankangs on it or something like that it could
be
> pretty bad, if anything, when the bars sag it lowers the car and its more
> stable in the wind.
> 
> Look at where the flexplate hub comes thru the bushing cover, how centered
> is it?  if its NOT rubbing against the cover than the bushing is fine.
The
> rear IRS suspension will pretty much last forever but the bars do sag, new
> bars wont correct this anymore that re-adjusting the old ones will.
> 
> From personal experience, it's a PITA getting new bushings to fit in there
> and go back together and even when its all bolted up, they don't fit as
well
> as the old ones did.  Get the Gabriel air shocks, they are on the market
> again, that will bring the height up and provide the correct shock rate.
> 
> Remember  though, if you have cheap tires on there or the wrong size, all
> bets are off.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> Klein
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 3:01 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Rear torsion replacement
> 
> They are shot, the car flops in the wind. The old owner put in coilovers
to
> compensate for it. I'm not up for that. It's time for a replacement. The
> bushings are shot too. Since I rebuilt the front end I should complete the
> job.
> 
> Sent from the desk of Robert Klein 
> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:24 AM, "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> Why would you want to replace them?
>> They are the one thing I deeply regret ever touching, it's a horrid job.
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> Top Notch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Klein
>> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:35 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: [T3] Rear torsion replacement
>> 
>> Hi y'all! I'm going to get started tomorrow replacing my rear torsions.
> Any
>> tips or info on the subject would be awesome! And does anyone have any
>> experience with 27mm torsions? Super stiff or not so bad?
>> 
>> Sent from the desk of Robert Klein 
>> 
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