[T3] One cylinder dead-not firing-#3

B Fye bfye at canyonville.net
Wed Jan 22 18:52:39 PST 2014


Barring the need for a new case, I disagree w/ $2000+ Stock long blocks.

Brian Fye

> On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Brion Sabbatino <brionsab at msn.com> wrote:
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> I am with you on that one Keith. By add up the cost all the quality parts, then labor, I don’t see how anyone can make any money on a rebuild for that price. 
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> Then again, I have not personally have first hand knowledge of their final product. Could be that he has a stash of good older parts.
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> It is easy to get into $2200 - $2800 building your own engine. But you know what went into it and are able to balance it.
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> Brion S. aka zionbrion
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> S. Utah
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> From: Keith Park
> Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎January‎ ‎22‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎29‎ ‎PM
> To: type3
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> Ya know, unless your time is worth nearly nothing, the only way to build a
> motor at that price is use cheap parts and cut corners, and in today's world
> Cheap parts are really to be avoided.
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> Heck, just the cost of a good align bore, crank turning or replacement, rod
> rebushing, head work...  today's Mahle jugs are now Chinese so they are junk
> meaning you need to have your old jugs bored and pistons fit...
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> I cant count the number of times ive seen problems with cheaply build T3
> engines, and in the T4 world, with real HP, the problem is 10 times worse
> and 10 times more expensive.
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> Keith
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> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
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> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
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> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:43 PM
> To: T3 List
> Subject: Re: [T3] One cylinder dead-not firing-#3
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> Brandon in TN says he will build a nice 1776cc long block for $1495.
> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003343483809&viewer_id=1000010558
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>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
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>> One thing to keep in mind that if your valve train geometry isn't set up
>> properly you can run out of adjuster.  Its possible that someone put cut
>> heads on there, never re-did the geometry and they simply cant adjust it
>> closed anymore because a seat is worn.  I have the rocker arms shaved on
> my
>> 71 to accommodate the swivel foot adjusters in a stock setup, otherwise I
>> wouldn't be able to adjust them.
>> 
>> Keith
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>> Top Notch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of John L.
>> Morgan IV
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:50 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] One cylinder dead-not firing-#3
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>> In my conversation today on the phone, I was told
>> that #3 has a collapsed valve seat.
>> They
>> disconnected the #3 injector to prevent gas going in the
>> engine and corroding the ring.
>> He recommended a new engine-with
>> new heads-not rebuilt heads.
>> I read off the list of things to check, and
>> he kept saying, "None of that matters, we
>> had the adjuster opened all the way...valve is shot.
>> You can keep driving it around town on 3 cylinders."
>> ?
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>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
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>>>> On 21 Jan 2014 at 18:58, John L. Morgan IV wrote:
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>>>> I will take you up on that offer. My wife is a wonderful cook, and I
>> have
>>>> two young boys who can hold tools.
>>> 
>>> My wife, Melissa, has turned into a wonderful cook, too, but I don't
>>> think her idea of a good time would be to sit while I work on other
>>> people's cars. With luck, she'll be coming to the next Invasion, so
>>> maybe this will be our chance to change her mind.
>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2014 at 18:35, John L. Morgan IV wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sometimes, I think it would be cheaper to fly Jim Adney out to
>>> Richmond
>>>>>> and fix my car once and for all...the right way!
>>> 
>>> I was born and raised in Richmond. My mom still lives there, but my
>>> dad passed away just 2 months ago at age 93. I get down there a few
>>> times a year, but that is Richmond, Indiana, and I'm guessing you're
>>> talking about a different Richmond.
>>> 
>>> Small world
>>> 
>>> I should also mention that John J and I both had car trouble the last
>>> time we traveled to a west coast Invasion. IIRC, John had to replace
>>> some part of his exhaust system, and I replaced my right head. We did
>>> this while parked side by side in Brian's 2-car garage. Working
>>> together, we got both jobs done in a single day.
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>>> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
>>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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