[T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 46, Issue 23 / mileage.
Ross Clarke
clarkeross28 at internode.on.net
Fri Jul 25 14:49:27 PDT 2014
Hello everyone,
My 1966 Fastback with standard solex carbs and a standard 1600 single port motor usually gets close to 40mpg on a trip in good conditions. When the mountains get higher I usually get 36 - 38 mpg. I drive at about 50 to 55 mph and coast down hills. Of course on the freeways where speed of 60 - 65 mph is deemed safe my mpg drops to 33 - 35 mpg.
I keep the car in good tune and tyres at correct psi and being a fastback I guess that helps with the good mpg.
Ross ( in Aussie )
Ross Clarke
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> 1. oils and old oils... (FE Meek)
> 2. MPGs?? (Dennis Stiefel)
> 3. Re: MPGs?? (Jim Adney)
> 4. Re: MPGs?? (Brian Fye)
> 5. Re: MPGs?? (Dennis Stiefel)
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> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:18:24 -0600
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> Hi there
> You may have the reason for this apparent valve train failure in the very oil you have "stashed." Modern oils are fundamentally better in many ways and for many reasons, their lack of ZDDP notwithstanding.
> But, Pennzoil, at least the old "stash," was, (and, perhaps still is), an ash based oil...never recommended by any air cooled manufacturers back in the day. Quaker State, Valvoline, Castrol and Kendall, (and a few others), were the oils for air cooleds from VW to Porsche. While the old Pennzoil "might" have had adequate ZDDP, the break down of ash-based oils at normal air cooled operating temperatures make it a dicey choice at best. I'd get rid of that stash ASAP.
> Hope this helps.
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> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:16:57 -0500
> From: "Dennis Stiefel" <dlstiefel at dekalbk12.org>
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> I have been checking my gas mileage here lately and it's been lower than I
> expected. When I filled up a copula of weeks ago I got about 23 MPG today
> when I filled up today it was 22. This was mostly freeway and open high way
> driving with an average speed around 70 MPH. This was about what I got when
> I had the 1641 with the progressive Webber back in the 80s. I've checked
> the voltage again it's 14.3 V. Going to re check the ignition timing this
> weekend and I guess after that I'll check the fuel pressure. The car is
> running fine except with that slight skipping and a little smoke when it's
> first started cold for the first minute which it's done since we first got
> it running. Several months ago someone suggested the fuel gage we have at
> the school may be off so I guess if it checks out ok I may just get another
> gage and see. Any way is there anything else I need to check? The engine
> has over 2500 miles now on it.
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> Dennis Stiefel
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> 72 Fastback FI MT
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> 71 STD. Beetle
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> 67 Ford F-100 (hart of Crown Vic)
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>> On 24 Jul 2014 at 21:16, Dennis Stiefel wrote:
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>> I have been checking my gas mileage here lately and it's been lower than I
>> expected. When I filled up a copula of weeks ago I got about 23 MPG today
>> when I filled up today it was 22. This was mostly freeway and open high way
>> driving with an average speed around 70 MPH.
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> For a '72 FI at 70 mi/hr that's pretty typical. If you want better,
> let up on the gas pedal. 65 helps and 60 makes a big difference.
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> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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> These cars were geared for national speed limits that were lower.
>> On Jul 24, 2014 7:37 PM, "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
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>>> On 24 Jul 2014 at 21:16, Dennis Stiefel wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been checking my gas mileage here lately and it's been lower than
>> I
>>> expected. When I filled up a copula of weeks ago I got about 23 MPG
>> today
>>> when I filled up today it was 22. This was mostly freeway and open high
>> way
>>> driving with an average speed around 70 MPH.
>>
>> For a '72 FI at 70 mi/hr that's pretty typical. If you want better,
>> let up on the gas pedal. 65 helps and 60 makes a big difference.
>>
>> --
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>> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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> These cars were geared for national speed limits that were lower.
>> On Jul 24, 2014 7:37 PM, "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
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>>> On 24 Jul 2014 at 21:16, Dennis Stiefel wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been checking my gas mileage here lately and it's been lower
>>> than
>> I
>>> expected. When I filled up a copula of weeks ago I got about 23 MPG
>> today
>>> when I filled up today it was 22. This was mostly freeway and open
>>> high
>> way
>>> driving with an average speed around 70 MPH.
>>
>> For a '72 FI at 70 mi/hr that's pretty typical. If you want better,
>> let up on the gas pedal. 65 helps and 60 makes a big difference.
>>
>> --
>> *******************************
>> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
>> *******************************
> I usually just drive the car around town so on a typical day she hardly gets
> over 55. Sounds like I need to check the MPGs under these conditions. I
> average 70 on those trips because on certain stretches of the interstate I
> was on if you don't drive at least that fast you could get run over. When
> my father drove it to work back in the 70s with the stock set up he said he
> got about 28 but that was 2 lane high way where the speed limit was no
> higher than 55. I talked to some people who had a 70 notch this pasted
> weekend. It had an automatic with some kind of duel carb set up and claimed
> 31 MPGs but they did say they averaged 65 to 60 on their speed. Still 31
> sounded a little high to me but I guess not imposable.
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> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:43:22 -0700
> From: Soren Jacobsen <snj at blef.org>
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> Subject: Re: [T3] MPGs??
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>> On Jul 25, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dennis Stiefel <dlstiefel at dekalbk12.org> wrote:
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>> I usually just drive the car around town so on a typical day she hardly gets
>> over 55. Sounds like I need to check the MPGs under these conditions. I
>> average 70 on those trips because on certain stretches of the interstate I
>> was on if you don't drive at least that fast you could get run over. When
>> my father drove it to work back in the 70s with the stock set up he said he
>> got about 28 but that was 2 lane high way where the speed limit was no
>> higher than 55. I talked to some people who had a 70 notch this pasted
>> weekend. It had an automatic with some kind of duel carb set up and claimed
>> 31 MPGs but they did say they averaged 65 to 60 on their speed. Still 31
>> sounded a little high to me but I guess not imposable.
>
> Speed makes a huge difference in economy. I generally cruise at 55MPH in my 1965 Variant, and my mileage hovers around 31 at that speed. I've had a few tanks hit 34MPG, but keep in mind that this is the sort of thing you have to average out over an extended period of time. You'll never get the tank filled up to exactly the same point. I have a couple of things working in my favor on that front: 1) I almost always fill up at the same gas station, and the same pump at that station. 2) I have an early car, so I can see into the tank. I can visualize the fuel level quite well when it gets near the top, so I burp the tank until it gets to my usual fill level. I guess you 68-up guys just fill until the pump automatically stops?
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> Soren
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