[T3] T3 back on the raod in VA

J L Stamey jlstamey at gmail.com
Mon May 4 06:10:53 PDT 2015


Cool Doug. Look for me there, gold notchback,silver flake roof, cant miss
her!

What year bus you have Doug? I had a 67 13 window deluxe for about 14
years. Traded her for the notchback though.

Hey my friend Joe hosts a campout every year for BU. Anyone is welcome. He
lives about 4 mis from the drag strip where the BU is held in Petersburg. I
usually dont do the campout since I live about 8 mis from the track. But we
usually come on early Sun morning to Joes house to ride in w everyone into
the BU gates. The group that I ride in w is C3Vs.. central va vintage vw's,
and however else is at the campout.

I know it's a blast, beer keg, margaitas, karaoke machine, etc.

Here's the campout event listed on FB...

https://www.facebook.com/events/963656120313199/

Look fwd to meeting you Doug.
Be safe





> Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 13:45:05 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Doug Brashear <dougbrashear at yahoo.com>
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> J L said:
> > Very NICE Doug! Good to see another VA T3 on the road!
> > Since she's on the road Doug, are you going to make it to BUGOUT in
> > Petersburg VA this May? It's the 24th, Sunday. There's usually 2 BUGOUTS
> a
> > yr, but this year there's only one. I think the BU may return to it's
> home
> > next yr which is in Manassas VA.
> > I'll be there. It's be nice to see that slick green fasty at this yrs
BU.
>
> Hey!
> Yes, I'm definitely going to be there but may be driving the bus instead.
> My youngest daughter is coming with me and depending on how the day goes
we
> may camp overnight instead of heading back to NoVA same-day. If we do
> planning on doing it same-day, though, and I feel confident enough in the
> Fastback by then I'll try to bring it. 10 years of not being driven is a
> lot of confidence in its abilities that I have to restore, even despite
all
> the work I've done. In particular I'm still fiddling with the brakes.
After
> adjusting them they almost seem to have too much pedal. The brakes don't
> seem to drag, and definitely don't lock up, but the pedal action is a
> little different than what I remembered having. The whole brake system has
> been refreshed, though, so maybe it just needs to wear in.
> - Doug :-)
>

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>    1. Re: '73 Fasty back on the road (Doug Brashear)
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> Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 20:58:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Doug Brashear <dougbrashear at yahoo.com>
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> Phil said:
> >Congrats on getting her back on the road and looking so sharp!>
> Interesting that you have pop outs on a ?71 with the flow-through
> ventilation slots in the C-pillars.? I had that mod done on mine while it
> was apart and without a headliner,
> > and it is non-trivial to get it done right.? Do you know how it was done
> on yours?? Now that ISP West is reproducing quality pop out seals, they may
> become more desirable
> > than ever before.> -Phil
> This '73 didn't have them stock...I always wanted them and found a
> complete set but of course the seals were trashed. When I first received
> the windows they didn't have the aluminum trim but instead had these metal
> caps where the seal splits. I bought a set of the VW ISP West seals when
> they first started making them but didn't have the best time installing
> them. This time around I used a new set of seals all around (including the
> popouts) and the guy who installed them found the trim channel in the seal
> and installed the standard Fasty rear quarter window trim in there. I love
> the way it looks and the fact that I don't have to use those metal caps.
> IMO the best part is that windows-down turbulence is dramatically decreased
> when the pop-outs are open...plus, I love the fact that the glass actually
> bends :-)
> - Doug :-)
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> From: Max Welton <max_welton_2k at yahoo.com>
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> On 30 Apr 2015 at 20:01, Fiesta Cranberry wrote:
>
> > The brakes work now, but I'm noticing 2 things.? First is a weird kind of
> > "chatter" when I put my foot lightly on the brake pedal.? It's like the
> > pedal is fighting me, in a rapid, da da da da da da da kind of push up
> > against my foot.?That sounds like a slightly warped rotor.
> Max Welton
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> From: Fiesta Cranberry <fiestacranberry at gmail.com>
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> I took it for a drive today, and I also notice that the brakes are
> definitely "dragging" in a rhythmic manor---I can really feel it when
> coasting.  Sort of a drag...drag...drag...drag feeling that is in synch
> with the brake pedal pushing against my foot, and the soft scree noise from
> the rear.  Definitely the brake is rubbing and dragging on the car.  I
> couldn't push it out of the garage by hand---had to start it aand back
> out.  I'm wondering if they damaged a rotor?
>
> Lori & The B., 1971 SB AT
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> >    1. Re: Flexible steering coupler (Dave Hall)
> >    2. Re: Flexible steering coupler (Keith Park)
> >    3. brakes (Fiesta Cranberry)
> >    4. Re: 1973 Fasty Back on the Road! (Phil Hof)
> >    5. Re: brakes (Dave Hall)
> >    6. Re: brakes (Jim Adney)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 01:11:08 +0100
> > From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
> > To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
> > Message-ID: <1720FA635F2048AE877129275B4B3B0E at DavidPC>
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> >
> > Thanks Bob - the body may have become feeble but the head is still OK
> then!
> > It seemed that was probably a better way to go - might even do best with
> > the
> > spare wheel well out and stand in the hole with the car on the ground -
> > easy
> > enough to still turn the steering on gravel to get the required bolt at
> the
> > top.  Old cotter pins are hard to remove - I've had to do that on
> track-rod
> > (tie-rod) ends. Maybe now stainless are common it would be better, but
> the
> > mild steel ones always rusted in.  I can't imagine how hard it was to
> drill
> > through in that position
> >
> > Thanks for the warning on the coupler.  I've two genuine NOS VW ones in
> my
> > parts, not poor quality repros, and they are the rubber impregnated
> fabric
> > with spacers.  Some I've seen have something like rivets, and definitely
> > are
> > very inferior.  I remember the one I changed decades ago was badly
> cracked,
> > but the fabric was still holding things together.
> >
> > I guess the column housing may need disturbing to get a bit of clearance
> to
> > remove the old and fit the new - we'll see.
> >
> > Dave
> > UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Bobsnotch at aol.com
> > Sent: 30 April 2015 18:04
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
> >
> > In a message dated 4/30/15 11:23:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk writes:
> >
> > > Any tips on this job?
> > >
> > >  BTW, the nuts and bolts are actually M8 but with 14mm heads and nyloc
> > nuts,
> > >  and have Beetle part numbers.  You learn something new every day.
> >
> > Dave, the best advice for replacing the coupler rubber, is to do it with
> > the
> > tank out. Yes, the back might complain, but you can get a better purchase
> > on
> > the nuts and bolts. Yes, what you've found is something I've run across
> > myself. In fact on the early cars (thru 64) VW actually used castle nuts
> > and
> > cotter pins on those bolts. :O  Same 14mm size though. Thought the small
> > cotter pins were really out of place, but then that's 1 area you don't
> want
> > anything coming loose. ;-) Also, make sure the coupler you get has the
> > cloth
> > inside it, as quite a few of these are now being made without it. And
> when
> > they start to crack, they fail completely, leaving you with very little
> > steering. Just a heads up, and I hope this helps.
> > Bob</HTML>
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> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 20:22:47 -0400
> > From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> > To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
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> > Yes, one of the ONLY 14mm on the T3 on the steering coupler!
> > pull the tank, MUCH easier, and make sure the new one your using has the
> > thread reinforcment in it, and not one that just has rubber as they tend
> to
> > crack quickly and break completely.  Id personally prefer a slightly
> > cracked
> > original with the tread in it than a new straight rubber one.
> >
> > Keiht
> >
> >
> > Topnotch Restorations
> > topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> > http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> > 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
> > 65 Squareback  "Eggcrate"
> > 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
> > 93 RX7  "Redstur"
> > 87 Golf  "Winterat"
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Dave Hall
> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:15 PM
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
> >
> > I doubt I've changed one of the rubber steering couplers in years, but
> the
> > tester last year said it was slightly cracked, so I thought I'd better
> see
> > to it before offering it up for this year's test.  I had been putting it
> > off, as I want to replace the rusting and much-patched wing (fender) that
> > side and it seemed a good chance to work on both.
> >
> > It took a while to lift the front, support it, take off the wheel, and
> even
> > longer to puzzle out the best way to undo the 4 bolts. They didn't seem
> to
> > be 13mm or 15mm heads, hmm, maybe 14mm then - not very common on a Type
> 3,
> > though the '59 Beetle had them everywhere.   Access wasn't good either -
> > the
> > beam gets in the way, so does the steering column collapsible web.  I
> > didn't
> > seem to have an extension that suited the job.  Then there was the age
> > factor - awkward angle to work at, not enough strength at arms length, a
> > bit
> > of a creaky shoulder etc. - just a few of the penalties of the passing
> > years!
> >
> > What should have taken an hour left me so frustrated after a couple of
> > hours, that I just nipped up the wheel bearing that the inspector had
> > reported as having slight play and put things back.  I'll probably remove
> > the tank when I do the wing, along with some preventive maintenance -
> it's
> > not very hard on a carbed car, and I suspect the little seal on the tank
> > inlet pipe isn't sealing as well as it should.  I assume working down
> from
> > above will be easier - as long as the back doesn't complain instead!  I
> > think the horn wire link is high resistance, so I can renew or clean that
> > as
> > another benefit of the job.
> >
> > Any tips on this job?
> >
> > BTW, the nuts and bolts are actually M8 but with 14mm heads and nyloc
> nuts,
> > and have Beetle part numbers.  You learn something new every day.
> >
> > Dave.
> > UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 20:01:48 -0700
> > From: Fiesta Cranberry <fiestacranberry at gmail.com>
> > To: VW list <type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: [T3] brakes
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> >
> > hi guys,
> > I finally had the master cylinder replaced in The Baroness---it had
> > completely given out on me.
> >
> > The brakes work now, but I'm noticing 2 things.  First is a weird kind of
> > "chatter" when I put my foot lightly on the brake pedal.  It's like the
> > pedal is fighting me, in a rapid, da da da da da da da kind of push up
> > against my foot.
> >
> > The second is a soft scree scree scree coming from (I think) the
> passenger
> > side back wheel.  I notice it when I'm coasting.  The brakes also seem to
> > grab very quickly and hard.
> >
> > Is this normal?  I've never noticed this before.  I'm using a new guy,
> so I
> > wanted to check in with you before I take it back.
> >
> > Lori and The Baroness, 71 SB AT
> >
> > --
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> > won out over it."
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> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:15:03 -0700
> > From: Phil Hof <phil.hof at ostronic.org>
> > To: type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org
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> > Congrats on getting her back on the road and looking so sharp!
> >
> > Interesting that you have pop outs on a ?71 with the flow-through
> > ventilation slots in the C-pillars.  I had that mod done on mine while it
> > was apart and without a headliner, and it is non-trivial to get it done
> > right.  Do you know how it was done on yours?  Now that ISP West is
> > reproducing quality pop out seals, they may become more desirable than
> ever
> > before.
> > -Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 12:29:40 +0100
> > From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
> > To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] brakes
> > Message-ID: <C2F2EA2EC93947858B8883FA125F8846 at DavidPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Hi Lori,
> > Sounds like the friction surfaces are grabbing and releasing.  If the
> > master
> > cylinder hasn't been working properly for a while, there may be a bit of
> > surface rust. Are the discs shiny, or a bit rusty? That's more common in
> > damp places than California, though.  The rear drums can suffer the same.
> > Sometimes chamfering the leading ends of the shoes helps. Were the pads
> or
> > shoes renewed, or just the M/C?  If so, they may take a little while to
> > bed-in.
> >
> > Dave
> > UK VW Type 3&4 Club
> > ===================
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Fiesta Cranberry
> > Sent: 01 May 2015 04:02
> > To: VW list
> > Subject: [T3] brakes
> >
> > hi guys,
> > I finally had the master cylinder replaced in The Baroness---it had
> > completely given out on me.
> >
> > The brakes work now, but I'm noticing 2 things.  First is a weird kind of
> > "chatter" when I put my foot lightly on the brake pedal.  It's like the
> > pedal is fighting me, in a rapid, da da da da da da da kind of push up
> > against my foot.
> >
> > The second is a soft scree scree scree coming from (I think) the
> passenger
> > side back wheel.  I notice it when I'm coasting.  The brakes also seem to
> > grab very quickly and hard.
> >
> > Is this normal?  I've never noticed this before.  I'm using a new guy,
> so I
> > wanted to check in with you before I take it back.
> >
> > Lori and The Baroness, 71 SB AT
> >
> > --
> > "I wrestled with reality for 36 years, and I'm happy to say I've finally
> > won
> > out over it."
> >                                                   ---Elwood P. Dowd
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> > Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 07:26:09 -0500
> > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] brakes
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> > On 30 Apr 2015 at 20:01, Fiesta Cranberry wrote:
> >
> > > The brakes work now, but I'm noticing 2 things.  First is a weird kind
> of
> > > "chatter" when I put my foot lightly on the brake pedal.  It's like the
> > > pedal is fighting me, in a rapid, da da da da da da da kind of push up
> > > against my foot.
> >
> > Not sure what this is, but I've experienced something similar with
> > certain brake fluids that seem to lack lubricity, so that the seals
> > in the MC seem to be sticking in the MC bore as they go down. I get a
> > sort of stick-slip effect: stick-stick-stick...stick. Sort of a long
> > scriiiiiiiich as I push the pedal down. It's as if things were
> > "squeaky clean" inside the MC.
> >
> > The end result of this was that the MC seals wore out quickly (a
> > couple of years) from the friction. The brake fluid that did this to
> > me was Castrol LMA, which is normally considered a good product, but
> > this problem went away when I switched to DOT-5 silicone brake fluid,
> > which has excellent rubber to metal lubricity. The Castrol is a DOT-4
> > fluid. A run of the mill DOT-3 fluid would probably also work better.
> >
> > > The second is a soft scree scree scree coming from (I think) the
> > passenger
> > > side back wheel.  I notice it when I'm coasting.  The brakes also seem
> to
> > > grab very quickly and hard.
> >
> > It could be nothing, just some rust sticking up and touching the
> > rotating drum, or it could be a sign that the brakes on one wheel are
> > adjusted a tad too tight. There are also some small parts which hold
> > the rear brake shoes in place against the brake backing plate.
> > Sometimes when these get old, they come apart and fall to the bottom
> > of the drum, where they slide and make noise. Those parts could
> > probably just be left out, or they could be replaced if you can find
> > Type 3 replacements. There's a spring, a pin, and a washer: two of
> > each on each wheel. I think only the pin is Type 3 specific.
> >
> > --
> > *******************************
> > Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
> > Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> > *******************************
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 13:45:05 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Doug Brashear <dougbrashear at yahoo.com>
> > To: "type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org"
> >         <type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14
> > Message-ID:
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> > J L said:
> > > Very NICE Doug! Good to see another VA T3 on the road!
> > > Since she's on the road Doug, are you going to make it to BUGOUT in
> > > Petersburg VA this May? It's the 24th, Sunday. There's usually 2
> BUGOUTS
> > a
> > > yr, but this year there's only one. I think the BU may return to it's
> > home
> > > next yr which is in Manassas VA.
> > > I'll be there. It's be nice to see that slick green fasty at this yrs
> BU.
> >
> > Hey!
> > Yes, I'm definitely going to be there but may be driving the bus instead.
> > My youngest daughter is coming with me and depending on how the day goes
> we
> > may camp overnight instead of heading back to NoVA same-day. If we do
> > planning on doing it same-day, though, and I feel confident enough in the
> > Fastback by then I'll try to bring it. 10 years of not being driven is a
> > lot of confidence in its abilities that I have to restore, even despite
> all
> > the work I've done. In particular I'm still fiddling with the brakes.
> After
> > adjusting them they almost seem to have too much pedal. The brakes don't
> > seem to drag, and definitely don't lock up, but the pedal action is a
> > little different than what I remembered having. The whole brake system
> has
> > been refreshed, though, so maybe it just needs to wear in.
> > - Doug :-)
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> Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 15:38:37 -0700
> From: Fiesta Cranberry <fiestacranberry at gmail.com>
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> Oh, and I've been running silicone in there for years.
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> >    1. Re: Flexible steering coupler (Dave Hall)
> >    2. Re: Flexible steering coupler (Keith Park)
> >    3. brakes (Fiesta Cranberry)
> >    4. Re: 1973 Fasty Back on the Road! (Phil Hof)
> >    5. Re: brakes (Dave Hall)
> >    6. Re: brakes (Jim Adney)
> >    7. Re: type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14 (Doug Brashear)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 01:11:08 +0100
> > From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
> > To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
> > Message-ID: <1720FA635F2048AE877129275B4B3B0E at DavidPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Thanks Bob - the body may have become feeble but the head is still OK
> then!
> > It seemed that was probably a better way to go - might even do best with
> > the
> > spare wheel well out and stand in the hole with the car on the ground -
> > easy
> > enough to still turn the steering on gravel to get the required bolt at
> the
> > top.  Old cotter pins are hard to remove - I've had to do that on
> track-rod
> > (tie-rod) ends. Maybe now stainless are common it would be better, but
> the
> > mild steel ones always rusted in.  I can't imagine how hard it was to
> drill
> > through in that position
> >
> > Thanks for the warning on the coupler.  I've two genuine NOS VW ones in
> my
> > parts, not poor quality repros, and they are the rubber impregnated
> fabric
> > with spacers.  Some I've seen have something like rivets, and definitely
> > are
> > very inferior.  I remember the one I changed decades ago was badly
> cracked,
> > but the fabric was still holding things together.
> >
> > I guess the column housing may need disturbing to get a bit of clearance
> to
> > remove the old and fit the new - we'll see.
> >
> > Dave
> > UK VW Type 3&4 Club
> > ===================
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Bobsnotch at aol.com
> > Sent: 30 April 2015 18:04
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
> >
> > In a message dated 4/30/15 11:23:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk writes:
> >
> > > Any tips on this job?
> > >
> > >  BTW, the nuts and bolts are actually M8 but with 14mm heads and nyloc
> > nuts,
> > >  and have Beetle part numbers.  You learn something new every day.
> >
> > Dave, the best advice for replacing the coupler rubber, is to do it with
> > the
> > tank out. Yes, the back might complain, but you can get a better purchase
> > on
> > the nuts and bolts. Yes, what you've found is something I've run across
> > myself. In fact on the early cars (thru 64) VW actually used castle nuts
> > and
> > cotter pins on those bolts. :O  Same 14mm size though. Thought the small
> > cotter pins were really out of place, but then that's 1 area you don't
> want
> > anything coming loose. ;-) Also, make sure the coupler you get has the
> > cloth
> > inside it, as quite a few of these are now being made without it. And
> when
> > they start to crack, they fail completely, leaving you with very little
> > steering. Just a heads up, and I hope this helps.
> > Bob</HTML>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 20:22:47 -0400
> > From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> > To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
> > Message-ID: <D6.B1.15482.C47C2455 at cdptpa-oedge02>
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> >
> > Yes, one of the ONLY 14mm on the T3 on the steering coupler!
> > pull the tank, MUCH easier, and make sure the new one your using has the
> > thread reinforcment in it, and not one that just has rubber as they tend
> to
> > crack quickly and break completely.  Id personally prefer a slightly
> > cracked
> > original with the tread in it than a new straight rubber one.
> >
> > Keiht
> >
> >
> > Topnotch Restorations
> > topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> > http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> > 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
> > 65 Squareback  "Eggcrate"
> > 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
> > 93 RX7  "Redstur"
> > 87 Golf  "Winterat"
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Dave Hall
> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:15 PM
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: [T3] Flexible steering coupler
> >
> > I doubt I've changed one of the rubber steering couplers in years, but
> the
> > tester last year said it was slightly cracked, so I thought I'd better
> see
> > to it before offering it up for this year's test.  I had been putting it
> > off, as I want to replace the rusting and much-patched wing (fender) that
> > side and it seemed a good chance to work on both.
> >
> > It took a while to lift the front, support it, take off the wheel, and
> even
> > longer to puzzle out the best way to undo the 4 bolts. They didn't seem
> to
> > be 13mm or 15mm heads, hmm, maybe 14mm then - not very common on a Type
> 3,
> > though the '59 Beetle had them everywhere.   Access wasn't good either -
> > the
> > beam gets in the way, so does the steering column collapsible web.  I
> > didn't
> > seem to have an extension that suited the job.  Then there was the age
> > factor - awkward angle to work at, not enough strength at arms length, a
> > bit
> > of a creaky shoulder etc. - just a few of the penalties of the passing
> > years!
> >
> > What should have taken an hour left me so frustrated after a couple of
> > hours, that I just nipped up the wheel bearing that the inspector had
> > reported as having slight play and put things back.  I'll probably remove
> > the tank when I do the wing, along with some preventive maintenance -
> it's
> > not very hard on a carbed car, and I suspect the little seal on the tank
> > inlet pipe isn't sealing as well as it should.  I assume working down
> from
> > above will be easier - as long as the back doesn't complain instead!  I
> > think the horn wire link is high resistance, so I can renew or clean that
> > as
> > another benefit of the job.
> >
> > Any tips on this job?
> >
> > BTW, the nuts and bolts are actually M8 but with 14mm heads and nyloc
> nuts,
> > and have Beetle part numbers.  You learn something new every day.
> >
> > Dave.
> > UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 20:01:48 -0700
> > From: Fiesta Cranberry <fiestacranberry at gmail.com>
> > To: VW list <type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: [T3] brakes
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > hi guys,
> > I finally had the master cylinder replaced in The Baroness---it had
> > completely given out on me.
> >
> > The brakes work now, but I'm noticing 2 things.  First is a weird kind of
> > "chatter" when I put my foot lightly on the brake pedal.  It's like the
> > pedal is fighting me, in a rapid, da da da da da da da kind of push up
> > against my foot.
> >
> > The second is a soft scree scree scree coming from (I think) the
> passenger
> > side back wheel.  I notice it when I'm coasting.  The brakes also seem to
> > grab very quickly and hard.
> >
> > Is this normal?  I've never noticed this before.  I'm using a new guy,
> so I
> > wanted to check in with you before I take it back.
> >
> > Lori and The Baroness, 71 SB AT
> >
> > --
> > "I wrestled with reality for 36 years, and I'm happy to say I've finally
> > won out over it."
> >                                                   ---Elwood P. Dowd
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:15:03 -0700
> > From: Phil Hof <phil.hof at ostronic.org>
> > To: type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] 1973 Fasty Back on the Road!
> > Message-ID: <B057F747-FF7B-4FF8-AA06-E2E112C2464B at ostronic.org>
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> >
> > Congrats on getting her back on the road and looking so sharp!
> >
> > Interesting that you have pop outs on a ?71 with the flow-through
> > ventilation slots in the C-pillars.  I had that mod done on mine while it
> > was apart and without a headliner, and it is non-trivial to get it done
> > right.  Do you know how it was done on yours?  Now that ISP West is
> > reproducing quality pop out seals, they may become more desirable than
> ever
> > before.
> > -Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 12:29:40 +0100
> > From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
> > To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] brakes
> > Message-ID: <C2F2EA2EC93947858B8883FA125F8846 at DavidPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Hi Lori,
> > Sounds like the friction surfaces are grabbing and releasing.  If the
> > master
> > cylinder hasn't been working properly for a while, there may be a bit of
> > surface rust. Are the discs shiny, or a bit rusty? That's more common in
> > damp places than California, though.  The rear drums can suffer the same.
> > Sometimes chamfering the leading ends of the shoes helps. Were the pads
> or
> > shoes renewed, or just the M/C?  If so, they may take a little while to
> > bed-in.
> >
> > Dave
> > UK VW Type 3&4 Club
> > ===================
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:
> > type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Fiesta Cranberry
> > Sent: 01 May 2015 04:02
> > To: VW list
> > Subject: [T3] brakes
> >
> > hi guys,
> > I finally had the master cylinder replaced in The Baroness---it had
> > completely given out on me.
> >
> > The brakes work now, but I'm noticing 2 things.  First is a weird kind of
> > "chatter" when I put my foot lightly on the brake pedal.  It's like the
> > pedal is fighting me, in a rapid, da da da da da da da kind of push up
> > against my foot.
> >
> > The second is a soft scree scree scree coming from (I think) the
> passenger
> > side back wheel.  I notice it when I'm coasting.  The brakes also seem to
> > grab very quickly and hard.
> >
> > Is this normal?  I've never noticed this before.  I'm using a new guy,
> so I
> > wanted to check in with you before I take it back.
> >
> > Lori and The Baroness, 71 SB AT
> >
> > --
> > "I wrestled with reality for 36 years, and I'm happy to say I've finally
> > won
> > out over it."
> >                                                   ---Elwood P. Dowd
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 07:26:09 -0500
> > From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] brakes
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> >
> > On 30 Apr 2015 at 20:01, Fiesta Cranberry wrote:
> >
> > > The brakes work now, but I'm noticing 2 things.  First is a weird kind
> of
> > > "chatter" when I put my foot lightly on the brake pedal.  It's like the
> > > pedal is fighting me, in a rapid, da da da da da da da kind of push up
> > > against my foot.
> >
> > Not sure what this is, but I've experienced something similar with
> > certain brake fluids that seem to lack lubricity, so that the seals
> > in the MC seem to be sticking in the MC bore as they go down. I get a
> > sort of stick-slip effect: stick-stick-stick...stick. Sort of a long
> > scriiiiiiiich as I push the pedal down. It's as if things were
> > "squeaky clean" inside the MC.
> >
> > The end result of this was that the MC seals wore out quickly (a
> > couple of years) from the friction. The brake fluid that did this to
> > me was Castrol LMA, which is normally considered a good product, but
> > this problem went away when I switched to DOT-5 silicone brake fluid,
> > which has excellent rubber to metal lubricity. The Castrol is a DOT-4
> > fluid. A run of the mill DOT-3 fluid would probably also work better.
> >
> > > The second is a soft scree scree scree coming from (I think) the
> > passenger
> > > side back wheel.  I notice it when I'm coasting.  The brakes also seem
> to
> > > grab very quickly and hard.
> >
> > It could be nothing, just some rust sticking up and touching the
> > rotating drum, or it could be a sign that the brakes on one wheel are
> > adjusted a tad too tight. There are also some small parts which hold
> > the rear brake shoes in place against the brake backing plate.
> > Sometimes when these get old, they come apart and fall to the bottom
> > of the drum, where they slide and make noise. Those parts could
> > probably just be left out, or they could be replaced if you can find
> > Type 3 replacements. There's a spring, a pin, and a washer: two of
> > each on each wheel. I think only the pin is Type 3 specific.
> >
> > --
> > *******************************
> > Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
> > Madison, Wisconsin, USA
> > *******************************
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 13:45:05 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Doug Brashear <dougbrashear at yahoo.com>
> > To: "type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org"
> >         <type3-vwtype3.org at lists.vwtype3.org>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14
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> >
> > J L said:
> > > Very NICE Doug! Good to see another VA T3 on the road!
> > > Since she's on the road Doug, are you going to make it to BUGOUT in
> > > Petersburg VA this May? It's the 24th, Sunday. There's usually 2
> BUGOUTS
> > a
> > > yr, but this year there's only one. I think the BU may return to it's
> > home
> > > next yr which is in Manassas VA.
> > > I'll be there. It's be nice to see that slick green fasty at this yrs
> BU.
> >
> > Hey!
> > Yes, I'm definitely going to be there but may be driving the bus instead.
> > My youngest daughter is coming with me and depending on how the day goes
> we
> > may camp overnight instead of heading back to NoVA same-day. If we do
> > planning on doing it same-day, though, and I feel confident enough in the
> > Fastback by then I'll try to bring it. 10 years of not being driven is a
> > lot of confidence in its abilities that I have to restore, even despite
> all
> > the work I've done. In particular I'm still fiddling with the brakes.
> After
> > adjusting them they almost seem to have too much pedal. The brakes don't
> > seem to drag, and definitely don't lock up, but the pedal action is a
> > little different than what I remembered having. The whole brake system
> has
> > been refreshed, though, so maybe it just needs to wear in.
> > - Doug :-)
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