[T3] Air Conditioning

Tue Jul 5 12:47:00 PDT 2016

Brent,

Talk to Gilmore Enterprises in Las Vegas. They offer classic VW AC packages.

See how far along they are on the Type 3 system.

I am in the desert. Springdale, UT. Having a break from the triple digit temperatures, only in the 90's.

Let me know off line (private email) what you did in the Navy. I currently support several platforms as a civilian.

Brion S

-------- Original message --------
From: Brent Botolfson <brent at bottolfson.net>
Date: 7/5/16 1:14 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Air Conditioning

Brion,

I'm planning to move to Phoenix next year.  Just got back from a 2 week
trip to visit family.  I grew up there, and after 20 years in the Navy
I'm ready to move back and settle down.

When I do go through with this, it will be a body off resto/install, so
I'll have the opportunity to run hoses and such proper.  A friend of
mine is working on putting a 923 transaxle in his Fastback and has made
some creative modifications to the tunnel such as access panels that is
inspiring.  I know this crowd is mostly stock(ish) and just wanted to
find a source for the evap unit to keep the aesthetics right.

-Brent

> Brion Sabbatino <mailto:brionsab at msn.com>
> Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:44 AM
> Just keep on mind that the T4 was used in the Bus, 1976 912, and the 914.
>
> In each of those installations, the AC robbed HP, and put additional stain on the engine.
>
> I have a complete set up for the 914. I just can't go through with cutting holes in a rust free body. And yes AC would be nice in the desert.
>
> When did we get so spoiled that we always desire AC?
>
> Even at 100 plus degrees, there is something about cruising with the windows down with the warm breeze flowing through.
>
> On a side note. I was really disappointed not to been able to attend the Invasion. I really wanted to meet you all. Only five hours from Zion NP, my home.
>
> The Navy called and had some issues that I needed to attend to.
>
> Brion S
> S. Utah
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Keith Park<topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> Date: 7/1/16 7:17 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Air Conditioning
>
> Hmmm, T4, take lots of pix, T4 going back into my square at some point,
> that opens up possibilities..  :-)
> Got a sizable load on the trailer to haul to the camp tomorrow, hope that
> old stocker holds out but at some point..  T4 going back in!
> course I still dont want all those holes...
>
>
> Keith
>
>
> Topnotch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
> 87 Golf  "Winterat"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
> On Behalf Of Brent Botolfson
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 2:37 AM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Air Conditioning
>
> I've had a couple replies and think I've found one, thanks.
>
> Yes, R134 conversion and all new components to be used, really only the
> evaporator is what I plan to reuse.  And the compressor will be fitted
> to a 2.3L Type 4...
>
> -Brent
>
>> Graham Thomas<mailto:lithiumbomb at gmail.com>
>> Friday, July 01, 2016 4:46 AM
>> Coming out of lurk mode (Sold my car in 1995... )
>>
>> My '69 Squareback originally had A/C, but it had been removed by the
>> previous owner. There was a hole in the front bulkhead, holes in the fan
>> shroud, and visibly, holes in the front fenders:
>>
>>
> http://gtf.org/~lithium/car/squareback/lastpics/images/squareback8.1024.jpg
>> During the time I owned the car I only saw one other pre-facelift Type 3
>> with grills in the fenders like that. I guess there was once a condenser
>> hiding behind one of them.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Keith Park
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:21 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Air Conditioning
>>
>> What Jim said, AND, you'll have to have all new hoses made and convert it
>> over to R134
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>> 87 Golf "Winterat"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Adney
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:00 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Air Conditioning
>>
>>
>> If you're trying to replace one that's broken, try thesamba.com, but I
>> really can't recommend installing these on our cars. It's too hard on the
>> engine, makes future service under the dash impossible, and requires
>> cutting
>> holes in the body that are better left intact.
>>
>> The AC was never a factory item and was always aftermarket and dealer
>> installed. I hate to see cars cut up to install it.
>>
>> --
>> *******************************
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>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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>> Keith Park<mailto:topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
>> Friday, July 01, 2016 4:21 AM
>> What Jim said, AND, you'll have to have all new hoses made and convert it
>> over to R134
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>> 87 Golf "Winterat"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Adney
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:00 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Air Conditioning
>>
>>
>> If you're trying to replace one that's broken, try thesamba.com, but
>> I really can't recommend installing these on our cars. It's too hard
>> on the engine, makes future service under the dash impossible, and
>> requires cutting holes in the body that are better left intact.
>>
>> The AC was never a factory item and was always aftermarket and dealer
>> installed. I hate to see cars cut up to install it.
>>
>> Jim Adney<mailto:jadney at vwtype3.org>
>> Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:59 PM
>>
>> If you're trying to replace one that's broken, try thesamba.com, but
>> I really can't recommend installing these on our cars. It's too hard
>> on the engine, makes future service under the dash impossible, and
>> requires cutting holes in the body that are better left intact.
>>
>> The AC was never a factory item and was always aftermarket and dealer
>> installed. I hate to see cars cut up to install it.
>>
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> Friday, July 01, 2016 9:37 AM
> I've had a couple replies and think I've found one, thanks.
>
> Yes, R134 conversion and all new components to be used, really only
> the evaporator is what I plan to reuse.  And the compressor will be
> fitted to a 2.3L Type 4...
>
> -Brent
>
>

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