[T3] News and questions from the road

Fri Jul 15 17:49:38 PDT 2016

I would say the miss is the points . Everyytime no matter what brand of 
points I used once 4 to 5k mile rolled up I would get a miss at idle then 
the next stop it was gone . They always seemed to pit and no matter how well 
the cam was lubed and the point contacts centered  I ended up with a that 
pit. Since the MAP does not get real hot like the one parts on the engine 
the  contacts I would think should be fine.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Nohejl" <d.nohejl at gmail.com>
To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [T3] News and questions from the road


> Well, we’re still alive. Driving around Yellowstone the last few days we’ve 
> definitely noticed that power is somewhat limited—though there are so many 
> ascents it’s hard to tell if it’s because of elevation (generally between 
> 7500' and 9000’) or just that we keep having to downshift because we 
> suddenly have to go up a steep ascent when we’ve only been going 40 in 
> 3rd. Gas mileage has improved to 25.5 while in the park. The starter has 
> been totally fine since that one incident the other day.
>
> The only new thing is that our miss returned :(
>
> Yesterday, there was a periodic miss at idle which seems to have vanished 
> today but this morning we had 5 gentle misses in a row when pulling out of 
> a parking area. They felt like the same misses we had in the recent past 
> and which our work with Jim in Madison seemed to have gotten rid of. 
> Perhaps the connectors in the MPS plug need to be re-tightened? We also 
> noticed that there’s a little tit on the points so we should probably 
> replace those….can’t find the points file. It’s such a damned beautiful 
> place and the last thing we feel like doing is pulling into a corner of a 
> parking lot and fiddling with the car. Perhaps we won’t bother for now!?!?
>
> In other news, here are some things people have said to us about the car 
> in the last few days:
>
> —Nice Bug wagon!
> —Is that a Kamann Ghia?
> —Nice MG!
> —What is that?
> —Did you really drive that all the way from NY?
> —I used to have one of those but I overheated it on a hill.
> —Were they all red?
>
>
> Thanks for everyone’s input and feedback so far,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>> On Jul 14, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dave is right, with a 6V car a starter relay is a must,
>> but finally a couple years ago the hot start problem that was very
>> occasional and only on very long trips with the 71 needed that to fix it.
>> I tried different solenoids, different starters, made sure everything was
>> rebuilt and lubed correctly, good ground braid, clean connections... it
>> irritated me to have to use a "Band aid" to fix it but fix it it did, and
>> its now easier on the ignition switch too.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
>> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
>> 87 Golf  "Winterat"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org 
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Dave Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:47 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] News and questions from the road
>>
>> That starter scenario is entirely normal (!); my Type 3 used to do the 
>> same
>> thing, as do many others. I used to energise the starter briefly straight
>> after stopping the engine just to shake things back to where they should 
>> be.
>> That worked for a few years, but the problem hasn't recurred since 
>> fitting a
>> hard start relay, which was actually just a Bosch relay with integral 
>> fuse
>> holder.  The fuse is 15 Amp if I recall - I don't think it's anything 
>> very
>> special. It takes the load off the ignition/starter switch contact, so
>> should help that survive longer than not having a relay.
>>
>> Since having hot starting (starter motor not turning) issues decades ago,
>> first on 6V and then on 12V Type 3s, I've puzzled over what aspect of 
>> heat
>> soak can be behind this problem - thermal expansion, local drying out of
>> lubricant etc. It may be a combination of sticking armature (often
>> temporarily shocked into working by a tap with a hammer!), brushes not
>> making good enough contact with the armature (hammer trick again), 
>> sticking
>> gear on motor shaft (quickly shorting solenoid to battery main feed 
>> terminal
>> with coin as emergency technique - cleaning and lightly lubricating the
>> shaft does seems to help).
>> It only needs one or a combination of these factors to cause the problem.
>> That's why at the refuelling stop on the way to Boise on the first 
>> invasion,
>> Russ was lying under John's car using the nickel trick!
>>
>> Good luck with the rest of the journey.
>>
>> Dave
>> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
>> ===================
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org 
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Daniel Nohejl
>> Sent: 12 July 2016 18:12
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] News and questions from the road
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> The car started up fine this morning without us even touching anything.
>> Perhaps the solenoid is sticking? Or the ignition switch is getting 
>> tired?
>>
>> I don't think the rack will fit inside the car though we can 
>> try..however,
>> it's exactly as wide as the car so it seems unlikely. We'll probably just
>> wind up leaving it with Tram or Jessica's mother and having it shipped 
>> back
>> after we get home. That means we're very likely stuck with it for another 
>> 1k
>> miles but we've already come 2k miles with it on and I think we'll 
>> survive.
>>
>> We're off to do an oil change in a windy Kmart parking lot before 
>> shopping
>> for incidentals ahead of traveling into Yellowstone tomorrow. It snowed 
>> here
>> for a little bit yesterday so we're hoping for some kinder weather!
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
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