[T3] Changed my tie rod ends ?

Mon May 2 17:39:13 PDT 2016

I bought this set off of Amazon and have found it useful for several other situations. It’s Tekton which I feel like is a FLAPS brand but maybe I’m misremembering. Either way, this is it….probably costs only a little more than finding two separate crows feet in the size you need:

http://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-2580-8-Inch-Crowfoot-10-Piece/dp/B000NPR2BC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462235796&sr=8-1&keywords=metric+crowfoot <http://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-2580-8-Inch-Crowfoot-10-Piece/dp/B000NPR2BC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462235796&sr=8-1&keywords=metric+crowfoot>

> On May 2, 2016, at 8:35 PM, William J <catnine09 at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> Mine is a late 73 SB. It does not have the tapered tie rod end or the lock tabs or the slits at that end of the tie rod. Mine only has a flat end on that end of the tie rod and the nut is threaded on the tie rod end threads . It was all stock with original ends . So I'm not sure if the nut on mine is the same size as early models. Tram has seen this type on late models. I didn't have to deal with the lock plate or compression ring. , in fact I thought smething was missing until I put the tie rod in a vice locking that nut and then tried to unscrew the end , once I did the nut broke loose and I realized the nut just threads on the ends threads . The right side is a LH thread and the left is RH thread, both the inner ends on the drop arm . VW seemed to make this change late . The out side ends just have the normal clamp with a nut and bolt and one slit in the rod itself. . I wish all 4 were like that. Can't flip them around because the left inner has the 9* bend and is RH thread. I couldn't locate a 23 or 24 mm crows foot locally unless sears sells one. Autozone does not.
> 
> William
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [T3] Changed my tie rod ends ?
> 
> 
>> inner nut isnt treaded, its a compression nut, the outer nut jambs over it
>> and is held with the locking tabs.
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Daniel Nohejl
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 7:38 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Changed my tie rod ends ?
>> 
>> I just dealt the tie rod ends 2 weekends ago and had some frustrations too.
>> 
>> To get at the inners, I used a 22mm crowfoot for the small nut and a 24mm
>> for the large one. To get at the passenger side inners, I used a 10"
>> extension and a 3" extension on a 3/8" ratchet while working from the
>> passenger side wheel. I slipped the large opening in the VW tube wrench for
>> lug nuts/spark plugs over the end of the ratchet to get a little extra
>> leverage because the nuts were tight as hell.
>> 
>> In the end, on one side, I could tighten down the 22mm nut perfectly but not
>> the 24mm nut which I could get snug but not tight. It also didn't seem to
>> slide back correctly over the tapered end of the rod. I'll have to look at
>> that again this weekend because it bothers me not being all the way tight.
>> Never had this issue before on this car or Type 1.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 7:30 PM, William J <catnine09 at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had a difficult time because the inner tie rods have the nut that locks
>> the end to the rod and both are one the drop arm . I need to know what type
>> of wrench I need to get at them. I had to have the wheels off and reach in
>> over the left side to tighten them .
>>> 
>>> I got them loose because I removed both tie rod with the ends and managed
>> to tighten them with an adjustable wrench . I need to get them loose again
>> with the wheels on so I can set the toe and center the steering wheel . I
>> got the toe pretty close but now the steering wheel is 10 * off to the left
>> before it was 10* off to the right.
>>> 
>>> Any idea what VW tool was used or what those who have done this use? Also
>> what size wrench ? It seems to be either 23 or 24mm I went by the adjustable
>> wrench and measured it .
>>> 
>>> I made a better tool to check the toe at the inside of the steel rims and
>> plates to set the front wheels on then set the rear on jack stands . I used
>> a tape measure from the tire center but that is not the way to do it.  It
>> does not pull yet with the wheel off center it has more play going straight
>> . There is a bit of play in the box most of it was the inner right tie rod
>> end I had over 2 1/2" of play before replacing the ends , if I center the
>> wheel there is a bit more than 1" now .
>>> 
>>> I just need to know what sort of wrench I need to get at the tie rod nuts
>> , they are hard to get at and the master cyl is right there too not to
>> mention the beam . The outers are easy with the clamp and bolt and nut.
>>> 
>>> William
>>> 
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