[T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 74, Issue 12

Wed Nov 16 17:08:16 PST 2016

 That's about the same way I do in on my 73 FI . I usually place a spark 
plug black colored thread chaser I fit in a 13/16" deep socket and use the 
socket by hand to run the chaser in just to clear out the threads of any 
carbon that I might have dragged up from the end of the old plug then with 
all 4 out turn the engine over with the starter to blow them out . The spark 
plug socket I use is an old snap on which has the rubber ridged inset that 
holds the plug steady and use that with the 1/4" to 1/2: adapter after a bit 
of anti-seize to start the plugs , turn the adapter by hand then finish with 
the 1/4" ratchet and just snug up till I feel the crush washer hit then a 
bit more.

William
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From: "Ross G Clarke" <clarkeross28 at internode.on.net>
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Subject: Re: [T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 74, Issue 12

> Hello All,
>
> To get the plugs out of my single port twin port carb motor I use a 1/4 
> inch drive with a 3/8 adapter and plug socket driven by a ratchet handle. 
> This combination works well for me and clears the manifolds nicely!  To 
> start the plug off in the head thread I use a 2 inch piece of fuel line 
> (3/8 I think) to wind the plug into the head thread by hand. This gives me 
> a feel for the thread start. Once in I then use the socket combination to 
> wind home (not too tight) !
>
> Even the standard type 3 plug spanner is a bit too big for me!
>
> I appreciate the recent discussion on plug life, its a question I've had 
> for some time.
>
> Sorting out my small electric primer fuel pump. Should have it fitted to 
> my 66 fast back in the next few days, busy with my 1970 S/C project at the 
> moment.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ross (Australia)
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>   1. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Dave Hall)
>>   2.  Spark Plug Life... (Gary Forsmo)
>>   3. Re: Spark Plug Life... (John Jaranson)
>>   4. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Soren Jacobsen)
>>   5. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Keith Park)
>>   6. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Jim Adney)
>>   7. Re: Spark Plug Life... (Dave Hall)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 23:28:29 -0000
>> From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
>> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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>> Don't forget Sophy has twin carbs - it IS almost easier to drop the 
>> engine
>> to get those plugs out!  Quite a few owners I know prefer to remove the
>> carbs to improve access.  But thanks for the laugh, anyway, Jim!
>>
>> VW used to supply a special plug box wrench in the tool roll for those 
>> cars,
>> with a 1/2" diameter tail for the T-bar.  That clears the throttle 
>> linkages
>> OK.
>>
>> Dave
>> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
>> ===================
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of Dave Pallo
>> Sent: 15 November 2016 15:27
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
>>
>> [[[You DO know that you don't have to pull an engine to change the plugs,
>> don't you.   ;-)]]]
>>
>> LOL - Thanx for the good laugh, Jim!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Pallo
>>
>> '72 Square ~ Elwood
>>
>> Fairport, NY
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:58:29 -0600
>> From: Gary Forsmo <gbforsmo at gmail.com>
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: [T3]  Spark Plug Life...
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>> Good one, Jim.
>> I got my allotment of "giggles" for today.
>> I'm waiting for John J's response.
>> -- 
>> Gary "Frito" - '69 Squareback, FI, MT, One-owner
>> Rockport, TX (winter)
>> Lake Geneva, WI (summer)
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 21:07:41 -0500
>> From: John Jaranson <john at carartbyjohn.com>
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Gary Forsmo wrote:
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>>> Good one, Jim.
>>> I got my allotment of "giggles" for today.
>>> I'm waiting for John J's response.
>>
>> Dave Hall beat me to it.....
>>
>> It is almost easier to drop the engine to get at the plugs. <G>
>>
>> Besides I am dropping the engine to give it a once over anyway.  I want 
>> to clean it all up, re-torque everything, might even pull the heads and 
>> cylinders and check everything out inside too.  She deserves a little 
>> TLC...
>>
>> Later,
>> John Jaranson
>> www.carartbyjohn.com
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 18:19:12 -0800
>> From: Soren Jacobsen <snj at blef.org>
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't forget Sophy has twin carbs - it IS almost easier to drop the 
>>> engine
>>> to get those plugs out!  Quite a few owners I know prefer to remove the
>>> carbs to improve access.
>>
>> Dual port heads: ruining stock Volkswagens since 1967 ;)
>>
>> Getting to the spark plugs isn't so bad on single port engines with dual 
>> carburetors.
>>
>> Soren
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 21:34:34 -0500
>> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
>> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
>> Message-ID: <B1.22.30921.8B5CB285 at cdptpa-omsmta02>
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>> if you have a good lower end dont touch it, rings may not get back into 
>> that
>> sweet spot again but be sure to do a good valve job with new guides and
>> exhaust valves, after 60+K my valves were always whipped with all the
>> highway use.
>>
>> NOthing has been touched on Hothe's engine below the heads and its at 
>> 155K
>> now!  had her 46th birthday last week and the engines 25th birthday on 
>> July
>> 17th.  Man, never could I have imagined when I drove out of my parents
>> driveway with a new engine 25 years ago that it would still be happily in
>> the car all these years later!
>>
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
>> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
>> 87 Golf  "Winterat"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org 
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of John Jaranson
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:08 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Gary Forsmo wrote:
>>
>>> Good one, Jim.
>>> I got my allotment of "giggles" for today.
>>> I'm waiting for John J's response.
>>
>> Dave Hall beat me to it.....
>>
>> It is almost easier to drop the engine to get at the plugs. <G>
>>
>> Besides I am dropping the engine to give it a once over anyway.  I want 
>> to
>> clean it all up, re-torque everything, might even pull the heads and
>> cylinders and check everything out inside too.  She deserves a little 
>> TLC...
>>
>> Later,
>> John Jaranson
>> www.carartbyjohn.com
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 00:31:52 -0600
>> From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at VWType3.org>
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
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>> On 15 Nov 2016 at 23:28, Dave Hall wrote:
>>
>>> VW used to supply a special plug box wrench in the tool roll for those 
>>> cars,
>>> with a 1/2" diameter tail for the T-bar.  That clears the throttle 
>>> linkages
>>> OK.
>>
>> I think I've got one of those. I never realized that there was a
>> special purpose to that shape. The one I'm thinking of is large at
>> both ends, but has a long thin center section. Is that it?
>>
>> -- 
>> *******************************
>> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
>> *******************************
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 17:47:56 -0000
>> From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
>> To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
>> Message-ID: <BEC9FC14A6904057AA95CCBAD7226AB7 at DavidPC>
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>> Mine only has the spark plug box on one end, and two holes drilled 
>> through
>> at right angles for the T-bar. It may have come with dad's 1500S.  I 
>> don't
>> think I've had the double-ended with thinner centre length.  I think the
>> usual lug nut and spark plug double ended was provided, but I'm not 100%
>> sure. Sellers sometimes hang on to a tool kit, for some strange reason.
>>
>> I expect the double ended version which I can see in my parts book
>> illustration is the one you have.  It would probably fit the twin carb 
>> OK.
>> Where are the cross drillings for the T-bar - in the narrow section?  Is
>> there a large cross drilling for the lug nuts (jack handle)?
>> I guess you could simply try it on your plugs and imagine if it would 
>> clear
>> carbs.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org 
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Adney
>> Sent: 16 November 2016 06:32
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Life...
>>
>> On 15 Nov 2016 at 23:28, Dave Hall wrote:
>>
>>> VW used to supply a special plug box wrench in the tool roll for those
>>> cars, with a 1/2" diameter tail for the T-bar.  That clears the
>>> throttle linkages OK.
>>
>> I think I've got one of those. I never realized that there was a special
>> purpose to that shape. The one I'm thinking of is large at both ends, but
>> has a long thin center section. Is that it?
>>
>> --
>> *******************************
>> Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
>> *******************************
>>
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