[T3] Spark Plug Glitch...

[Keith Park]

You need alot more than oil on the threads, that will burn right off.  you
need a good grade of antisieze, and unfortunately if the plug isnt in right
it will likely leak compression gasses and burn out past the plug.  This
happened to me nearly 30 years ago, blew out on a big hill after I had
trouble getting the plug back in when the helicoil came out with it.

Id pull the tin on that side so you can see what your doing, and then at
least you know what your dealing with.

Keith


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From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of J. Jonik
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 12:25 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] Spark Plug Glitch...

So....with the maybe off-center spark plug back into its hole, best to leave
it alone until time for next tune-up?...spark doesn't care...or, get it out
and straighten it ASAP?
Thought is...that this car has had HeliCoil work before..but no way to know
which plug holes were HeliCoiled.     I have a smattering of spare heads,
some unused, but I don't want to do that job...on the street in front of my
house.  But, will take the chance of taking the plug out, and re-installing
it Straight In.   Usually, with that dab of oil on threads, they go way in
finger tight..then the wrench crank for a bit...without overdoing it.

Subject: Re: [T3] Spark Plug Glitch
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On 29 Sep 2016 at 22:16, J. Jonik wrote:

> T III 73 engine; standard: ?? This never happened before.? Took out and
touched up 1, 2, 3 spark plugs...wiped and put touch of oil on the threads.?
Back they went, no problem.? 
> Number 4 the same...put it back in...but then the VW spark-plug socket
extension would not pull out. ? It wiggled, but it was jammed somehow. ? Had
to use a long screwdriver against the insert twisting rod to pry it
out...against the tin below.? I could not pull it out by hand.

Sounds quite odd, but my guess is that this plug has been cross 
threaded into the head. That puts it at an angle such that it no 
longer points out the center of the hole in the tin. When that 
happens, the side of the wrench now catches on the tin.

With care, you might be able to get it started straight again, but 
chances are that this head will need some sort of insert in that hole 
to make it right again. There are several options for that, but my 
preference is a HeliCoil. This CAN be done with the engine in the 
car, but the very best way to do it is with the bare head, so you can 
see what you're doing from both sides.

Whatever you do, it's important that the repair be on the correct 
line. You don't want to discover that you've installed the insert at 
an angle. Again, this is easiest with the head off. The best way to 
do this is to have something long screwed into the good SP hole next 
door so you can make sure your insert tap is going in parallel to 
that good hole.

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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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