[T3] Breather cap

[William J]

It seems all have different issues at different times. My 73 auto trans 
never had a starter issue and still does not , hot long drives in hot over 
100 degrees and the starter always worked no matter how long I drove or how 
long it sat.

 I never had to prime my fuel system until maybe a year ago and this is a 
guess because I didn't record when it began . It started with three key 
cycles then became more cycles now even if it sits 2 days it's 9 and I added 
a primer switch which seems to take a good minute and even them it will 
start then quit half the time. Before this it could sit a week and I'd reach 
in the window turn the key once and it was running .

 Now once it does fire up I can drive it and it does not matter if it's a 
mile or 10 miles and it can sit for more than three hours and always fires 
right up , sometimes I make 4 to 5 short trips in a day and it will start 
right up even when it's not really warmed up temp wise.  let it sit a day 
and it's back to the priming mode crap. all I know is if it sits over night 
some where the pressure bleeds off either through the pump or somewhere and 
I don't see any fuel line leaks even when it's running. The lines from the 
engine to the back of the tunnel are the most difficult to see . From all 
I've read here and asked here and on Samba I just need to find what it is 
and rule out one thing at a time. My guess it the stock old pump check valve 
is not holding the pressure yet I need to rule out any fuel leaks first. 
Just build up pressure and clamp off the pressure side at the engine then I 
know it's from there to the pump . I'm told it could be an injector with a 
slow leak , perhapes yet it would stand to reason to some extent if this 
were true there would be other signs when I start it after it sits for 3 
hours like maybe some white smoke or hard starting when it's hot . Trouble 
is with this crappy ethanol fuel who knows if any smoke or hot hard start 
would even apply. All I know is it's the same fuel since this priming crap 
began .

 I do hope you find the issue for all the time and frustration you have gone 
through .


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Nohejl" <d.nohejl at gmail.com>
To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [T3] Breather cap


> Our starter hasn’t worked since “the incident”, cold, warm, or hot. I’ve 
> had a hot start relay in place for over a year and even still it’d 
> sometimes not turn over after a long highway run in the summer. I tried to 
> remove the relay before the trip we’re on and with the relay out, the 
> starter wouldn’t do anything at all, just like now. Relay and starter both 
> click, but that’s it, even when jumping starter terminals with a 
> screwdriver.
>
> The sounds the starter made on the two occasions it worked when I tried to 
> restart the car after the oil issue were not good. It sounded like a 
> pretty clear physical/material issue. Jim is going to look at it when we 
> pull it in the AM to see what’s what.
>
> Also…...In terms of starting...I just had the pleasant experience of 
> starting Jim’s 73 Automatic and it fired up instantly with what felt like 
> a half a turn of the key. Our Type 1 was like that when it had a stock 
> carbureted motor, but our Type 3 has never done that.  We’ve had 4 
> different motors in our Squareback and the only time they start on the 
> first try is after they’ve been warmed up and driven, even with the 
> priming device. Now what’s up with that? I’m jealous!!!
>
>
>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Starters will tend to not engage when under heat soak, they are OK they 
>> just
>> Need an additional relay added to take the current off the ignition 
>> switch
>> and increase the
>> Voltage a smidge to the stock solenoid and then things work reliably 
>> again.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>> Topnotch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
>> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
>> 87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
>> 01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org 
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
>> On Behalf Of Bobsnotch at aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:25 PM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Breather cap
>>
>> In a message dated 8/23/2017 3:39:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> phil.hof at ostronic.org writes:
>>
>> The  starter probably had nothing to do with it.  The heat soak from long
>> freeway trips will often get them to a higher temp than normal, which can
>> bring on an incipient failure.
>> Yup, we killed 2 used starters going out and back to Colorado in the 
>> type
>> 34. I know the heat from Kansas probably didn't help, and it was very hot 
>> in
>> the car (116*F in the shade at 4:30pm).
>>
>> Bob 65 Notch  w/Factory Sunroof converted to  IRS
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