[T3] 914 conversion

[Keith Park]

Wow, you got that 1.7 running eh?  That sat around for alot of years....
good to see it get used!

cant wait to see the Bones again, next invasion??

Keith


Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71 Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7  "Redstur"
87 Golf  "Winterat" RIP
01 Sentra SE "Boremobile"
 

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On Behalf Of Bobsnotch at aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:20 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] 914 conversion

In a message dated 6/22/2017 4:48:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ray at mendomail.com writes:

I have a  chance to pick up a '76 914 with good 1.8 motor and 5 speed. Any 
thoughts on  using that in a 65 notch?

Ray
If you can pick up the pair cheap enough, do so. I'd sell the trans  to 
someone looking for one (or is willing to spend the money on it), and keep
the 
motor. Strip off ALL of the L jet FI parts and sell them to a bus owner, or 
 a 914 owner, or even a type 4 owner and convert the engine to carbs. If  
your existing trans is a later unit, or has had the bellhousing ground out 
for a  200 mm clutch, you can use it, BUT you'll have to use a  conversion 
flywheel as there's no 210 mm pressure plates available for  the earlier
swing 
axle transmissions, and you'll need the pilot bearing moved to  the flywheel

for it to work. Then swap out the 914 engine hanger bar for a bus  unit, so 
you can open your options for adding engine support. You'll also need  bus 
heat exchangers if you want heat, or go with 411/412 units if heat isn't a  
problem. Then you'll need to find some shorty manifolds (or have some cut 
down  & welded) so you can fit a set under the floor. After all of this,
then 
you  need to figure out which exhaust system you want to run. 
Another thing you'll want is a copy of Nate Morse's template that converts  
the type 3 cooling bellows to be used with the type 4 engine. It's a  
downloadable PDF I think. It's basically a piece of sheet metal, that
already  
been cut to size and has both the openings and bolt holes already located.
 
Needless to say this ISN'T an "overnight" conversion. It took me  almost a 
full year just to gather the bits and pieces to put a T-4 engine  into a 
type 3. And then I never ran it as I never had time to play with it. :O 
 
In fact my son and I are almost finished converting a 1.7L T-4  engine out 
of a 914 that I picked up from Keith Park years ago. It's currently  sitting

in his topless 65 Squareback (The Pile of Bleached Bones as Keith so  aptly 
named it). Yes Keith, we've had it running (it's nice and smooth too  and 
no oil leaks :-)), and it's almost ready for it's maiden cruise (our local  
cruise night). We're using an FI distributor and a set of shorty ICT  
manifolds on it, and I spent part of today dialing them in (mostly  getting
the 
idle speed down). The carbs are an older set of CB Performance  carbs he had
on 
his 1600 T-3 engine, so the jetting is probably off. It doesn't  help that 
they haven't had air and fuel thru them in the last couple of years.  Yes, 
we should have gone thru them, but my son is in a hurry, and we know how  
that goes (it's been a thrash around here for the last 2 1/2 weeks trying to

get  it ready to go Friday afternoon). That car also got a full IRS
conversion 
done  to it earlier this spring (yes Keith, it's now more type 3 than it 
was  before ;-) ), as we've replaced the rear half of the car, and fitted
the 
early  stuff to it, along with readjusting the rear 65 fenders. The side 
bonus to doing  the IRS conversion, is that it allowed us to use a 210 mm 
conversion flywheel  and clutch assembly. He still wants to drop the car 1
spline 
all around to make  it even lower though.
 
OP, I hope this helps.


Bob 65 Notch  w/Factory Sunroof converted to  IRS
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