[T3] Tight Engine

William Jahn willjahn975 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 1 19:07:32 PDT 2018


Here's a link to one T-4 in a 73 Square shows the fan tin adapter .
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=793375

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Id definitely have to change my shorts at 138 in one of these cars!
> If only Bonneville didnt have all that SALT...  :-0
>
> Keith
>
>
> Topnotch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
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> 71 Squareback  "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
> 93 RX7  "Redstur"
> 95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"
> "hanging out at the tail end of the bell
> curve, and loving every minute of it!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Bobnotch
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> Subject: Re: [T3] Tight Engine
>
> We haven't had any issues with Rob's engine. Remember, these engines are
> used
> to pulling warm air from around the engine bay in a bus. On a 411/412
> Wagon,
> they
> use a cooling boot that is actually smaller than a type 3 boot. We used 1
> of
> those
> on Rob's. It was NLA back when I got it in the early 2000's.
> Russ always kept harping that the T-3 fan was the largest cooling fan ever
> used on
> an air cooled engine. And after seeing a T-4 fan, I can definitely believe
> it. It's smaller
> in diameter, but twice as wide as a T-3 fan. But, there are several T-4
> powered t-3's
> on the Samba, and most have carbs, with Nate running MS 3. He's also
> running
> a large engine, and is playing with it on SOLO circuits, along with his son
> taking it up to
> 138mph at Bonneville last year.
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org>
> To: type3 <type3 at vwtype3.org>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2018 3:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [T3] Tight Engine
>
>
> On 1 Aug 2018 at 11:07, William Jahn wrote:
>
> > isn't it sort of a risk to pull the spark plugs when hot ? My guess is
> > Jim suggested doing so with it cold , yet as I said I have no idea what
> > the heads are made of .
>
> Yes, I would worry about that, but I think you could get away with it if
> you
> removed the plugs first and coated them with a good antiseize then warmed
> up the engine and removed them again. That's a lot of work to go thru, but
> less work than tearing down the engine with no idea of what you're looking
> for.
>
> > I just wonder how the engine gets it's cool air through the fan since
> > it's in a T-3 body .
>
> Yes, that's a problem, but I'm willing to believe that Keith has done this
> effectively. Another question might be whether the air passages in the Type
> 3 body can carry enough air to cool a Type 4 engine. What we know is that
> other people have done this and gotten away with it. At least that's the
> story
> they're sticking with.
>
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