[T3] Giving up Stock FI

Keith Park topnotch at nycap.rr.com
Sun Dec 23 16:10:26 PST 2018


yea, the modern system will need to vary the spark too, and that wont happen
with a stock system.  How cam dependent are these?  with my mild cam in the
2056 it will miss when it gets on the leaner side, I advanced the injection
timing and this smoothed out quite a bit but I havent optimized it yet.

Keith


Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.topnotchresto.com
71 Squareback  “Hothe”
65 Notchback  “El Baja Rojo”
93 RX7  “Redstur”
95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"
"hanging out at the tail end of the bell
curve, and loving every minute of it!" 
-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of Daniel K. Du Vall
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:14 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Giving up Stock FI

You will no longer need the Mark 5 the setups are far better with the newer
EFI systems.
I run 4 LS1 coils (CNP) Coil Near Plug in full sequential spark and
injection Love how smooth it is.
There is also wasted spark setups as well as (COP) Coil On Plug. 

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From: type3-vwtype3.org <type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org> On
Behalf Of Keith Park
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:25 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Giving up Stock FI

No stock ignition?
I am running a Mark 10...

yea, Id feel better off with my solders than anyone elses.
this sounds like it could be a fun project...

Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.topnotchresto.com
71 Squareback  "Hothe"
65 Notchback  "El Baja Rojo"
93 RX7  "Redstur"
95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"
"hanging out at the tail end of the bell curve, and loving every minute of
it!" 

-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of bobsnotch at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 5:02 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Giving up Stock FI

Keith, everything other than the MS board is available in any good FLAPS.
The board you solder up, so you can handle that. You can also get it
"pre-assembled" if you want. You'll just have to set up the board to work
with your injectors is all. Then it's just a matter of deciding what type of

spark set up you want to go. Nick in Texas has a COP (Coil On Plug) set up
in his 64 Notch with a 2056 t-4 engine in it. Nate up in Washington has a
similar set up on his small (2056) motor. and in his 2316 big t-4 race
engine, he's running LS2 individual coils with ITB 45mm throttle bodies and

a MS3X injection system. This is in a 67 Squareback, that's seen a lot of
modification work done to it. It's also ran 115+ mph at Bonneville. 8-) Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
To: type3 <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Sent: Fri, Dec 21, 2018 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: [T3] Giving up Stock FI

Well even knowing your altitude thats not bad!
 I think gas mileage can be improved with the use of a closed loop system,
at least under some conditions because D jet has to run too rich in areas so
that its not too lean in others, and with my custom setup the linearity of
the curve is going to be even more off than stock.

WOW!  your AFR's are high, Jake told me to stay under 14 on the highway, and
Ray Greenwood pointed out that with the sensor in the stock muffler the
readings may not be accurate over the whole range anyway.  I did run it into
the 15's on the leanest areas, seemed to be fine, if I believe those numbers
anyway...  

One of the things thats keeping me from squirting it is spare parts, I love
having the extra D jet stuff along so if something does go south, no matter
what it is, I can be on the other side of the country and still get it
going.  how easy is it to get spares or replacements with Megasquirt?

Keith

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