[T3] Hothe is back on all 4
Keith Park
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
Mon Jul 23 19:11:17 PDT 2018
actually they are bosch 019's
2 of the leaky ones from 10 years ago I put in Kerosene as per Jim Adney's
suggestions, one of them now is good, the other still weeps a little.
One of the current leakers is still a gusher after a week with fresh gas in
it, the other is a slight weeper. The "Good" spare I had in Kerosene is now
a leaker, but to be honest It might have been when I got it too, I doubt I
tested that one.
I sent a message to Tram, hopefully he can dig me up a couple
Keith
Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.topnotchresto.com
71 Squareback “Hothe”
65 Notchback “El Baja Rojo”
93 RX7 “Redstur”
95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"
"hanging out at the tail end of the bell
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Subject: Re: [T3] Hothe is back on all 4
BOSCH part #' for the green T4 injectors is: 0 280 150 112
Don't have the VW part # handy
M
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, 7:47:50 PM EDT, Gary Forsmo
<gbforsmo at gmail.com> wrote:
So .....
What are the "good part numbers" for the fuel injectors?
Are they different for 1500 or 1600 engines?
Unique injectors for different years?
I have an "old" ... and I mean really old ... Mercedes repair garage very
near me. Would the Mercedes and Type 3 engines be the same?
If they would have the appropriate, NEW injectors, for our engines, it
might be useful to have 4 of them on hand. ???
"Frito" '69 Square, MT, 1600
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> 1. Re: I've got another question , same one I asked a while
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> 2. Hothe is back on all 4 (Keith Park)
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> 4. Hothe is back on all 4 (David)
> 5. Re: Hothe is back on all 4 (Jim Adney)
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> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:40:50 -0700
> From: William Jahn <willjahn975 at gmail.com>
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] I've got another question , same one I asked a while
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> Anyone? I just need suggestions.
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> William
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 2:03 PM, William Jahn <willjahn975 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I noticed when I was fixing the cold start valve hose in the parking
lot
> > that I have the temp sensor in the IAD un plugged . I did this because
if
> > it was plugged in the engine struggled between 1000 RPM and 2200 RPM if
> it
> > was in park. By struggle I mean the rpm was not a smooth climb it would
> > sort of hang and drop between the rpm range above. It also had a miss
> fire
> > at idle , not a back fire but an erratic miss .
> >
> > When I drove it I didn't feel any miss yet heard slight popping out the
> > exhaust when I let off the gas.
> >
> > I know the right Empi header to the right heat exchanger leaks I can
> hear
> > and feel this and that may be the popping I hear . ON that miss i can't
> > imagine that is related to the exhaust leak and I saw this because it's
> > been leaking there for 20 years and didn't have that erratic miss or
> > struggle between those RPM ranges .
> >
> > I know it has the proper ECU and throttle switch and pressure sensor
> > since Jim provided that info. I also checked every engine ground and
> redid
> > all and that seemed to help for a while then it was right back doing
> this.
> > I also know all a vacuum leak really does is allow more air and as far
> as I
> > know does not make for a richer mixture unless the leak is at the intake
> > gaskets and injector seals . I do know all for runner short hoses are
> oily
> > , I have new ones yet not the intake gaskets .
> >
> > I have read one can replace the paper on the intake spacer . I thought
> of
> > pushing back the old oily short hoses and removing the IAD without
> removing
> > the runners . It's possible yet does not look easy .
> >
> > Basically what I'm asking is should I repair the exhaust leak first
then
> > see and it this doesn't help go for the short hoses and replace all the
> > vacuum lines off the IAD . If I could get two FI intake spacer/gaskets I
> > would go that route . I don't think the old ones are cracked and may be
> > able to just make new paper gaskets.
> >
> > William
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> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:46:50 -0400
> From: "Keith Park" <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
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> Subject: [T3] Hothe is back on all 4
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> I cranked for oil pressure, got it and nothing leaking
>
> plugged the brain in and pumped up some fuel pressure and CRAP!
> 2 of the injectors are leaking... the Green ones that are so hard to get.
>
> I think I have ONE spare that is good, I have 2 others in Kerosene but if
I
> recall right
>
> they leaked when i last used them 8 years ago.
>
>
>
> This could be a show stopper till I find more green...
>
>
>
> Topnotch Restorations
>
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>
> http://www.topnotchresto.com
>
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>
> 95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"
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> "hanging out at the tail end of the bell
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> curve, and loving every minute of it!"
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> From: Mike Fisher <fisherfarms at gmail.com>
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> Tram (Georg) knows where to buy all the German VW-Mercedes parts.
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> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:46 PM Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I cranked for oil pressure, got it and nothing leaking
> >
> > plugged the brain in and pumped up some fuel pressure and CRAP!
> > 2 of the injectors are leaking... the Green ones that are so hard to
get.
> >
> > I think I have ONE spare that is good, I have 2 others in Kerosene but
> if I
> > recall right
> >
> > they leaked when i last used them 8 years ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > This could be a show stopper till I find more green...
> >
> >
> >
> > Topnotch Restorations
> >
> > topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> >
> > http://www.topnotchresto.com
> >
> > 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> > 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> >
> > 93 RX7 "Redstur"
> >
> > 95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"
> >
> > "hanging out at the tail end of the bell
> >
> > curve, and loving every minute of it!"
> >
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> From: "David" <rdavid at rochester.rr.com>
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> Now that Hothe is temporarily out of service - I bet you are now driving
> your RX7 "Redstur" back and forth to work these days.
>
>
>
> You're going to get spoiled having A/C driving Redstur. Better get Hothe
> back on the road soon!
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> Dave Pallo
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> '72 Square ~ Elwood
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> Fairport, New York
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> From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
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> Subject: Re: [T3] Hothe is back on all 4
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> On 17 Jul 2018 at 21:46, Keith Park wrote:
>
> > I cranked for oil pressure, got it and nothing leaking plugged the
> > brain in and pumped up some fuel pressure and CRAP! 2 of the injectors
> > are leaking... the Green ones that are so hard to get. I think I have
> > ONE spare that is good, I have 2 others in Kerosene but if I recall
> > right they leaked when i last used them 8 years ago.
>
> Sometimes they will recover, the O-rings will absorbe gas and swell back
> up,
> if you let them soak in their internal gas for a week or so. This has
> worked
> for me at times. Go to the car once a day and turn the key ON for a week
> to
> keep gas in there and see if the leaks stop.
>
> Of course if it's the hoses, just replace the hoses.
>
> The moral is that injectors will dry out in an unused engine just the same
> as
> when stored dry in your garage or basement. Better to take them out and
> store them in kerosene if you're not going to drive that engine again
soon.
>
> Yeah, it can be a pain.
>
> BTW, I think there's more than 1 Bosch part number that are green. I know
> no one bothers with this, but go by part number, not plastic color. The
> Bosch
> part number is molded into the side of the plastic.
>
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