[T3] Fuel Primer Switch.....

[Keith Park]

Ive run E10 in the cars for years, it runs leaner... but once that is tuned
out its fine. I do however, use Nonthenol in it for the winter, just to not
press my luck.  I think its the E15 where problems start to come up.

My question is, why are they still making E85 flexfuel cars?  You cant buy
it anymore and even when you could NOBODY ever used it as it was more
expensive when you factor in the loss of gas mileage, and of course your
power was considerably less.

Keith


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From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of bobsnotch at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 1:47 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Fuel Primer Switch.....

In talking with Ray Greenwood, the only way a FPR (Fuel Pressure Regulator)
goes
bad is because of rust. This usually only happens from NOT being used, and
exposed
to air. If the car gets a couple of times per week, then it shouldn't rust.
I just wish everyone would stop blaming ethanol for their fuel problems. Yes
it's hard
on hoses and carb bodies (internal stuff), but it's also been mixed into
fuel for over 30
years (in the USA). I'd be more worried about that MTBE stuff that
California used to
use, as that stuff contaminates drinking water.
Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: William Jahn <willjahn975 at gmail.com>
To: type3 <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Sent: Wed, Sep 26, 2018 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: [T3] Fuel Primer Switch.....


I've seen inside an old one I cut apart . The metering plate and seat are
metal , I would imagine over time and since this started not long after I
was not driving the car very often the fuel has ethanol 10% that's just
sitting there which probably caused the metering plate and seat to rust
enough . If I recall when there is no pressure from fuel the spring closes
the metering plate on the seat . My main point is it might be rust /pitting
that would cause the regulator to allow fuel to leak by . I'm not about to
rush out and buy a new one #1 because of the cost and #2 who knows how long
it sat on some shelf perhaps missing the caps or a cap then moisture would
enter and the new one may not seal either. Once it is primed it starts and
even 10 hours later it will still start right up ,unless it sits over night
and if a few days it needs more time running the pump to get the air out.
It's the same issue with the battery. Within a 2 mile drive stop and go
traffic I may start the car 4 times and since sitting in traffic you are
running off the battery , in doing so the battery after a few times doing
this does not fully charge. Plus now we had such a long HOT summer sitting
in a hot garage only speeds up the normal self discharge rate . I wouldn't
think the 5 mA draw that VR has would do much even though I would prefer to
not have any drain yet I have asked anyone who has the later electronic VR's
to check if it is normal , I don't believe it is. I recall last trip on the
freeway watching the voltmeter I noticed when I did stop after 10 miles of
steady driving the voltmeter at idle was 13 volts when before it was below
12 volts. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jim Adney Sent: Wednesday,
September 26, 2018 10:55 AM To: type3 at vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] Fuel
Primer Switch..... On 25 Sep 2018 at 20:14, Keith Park wrote: > Your
pressure regulator is no longer holding pressure, > replace it and the
problem goes away, however... there is no way to know > if the replacement
is good till you get it on there and adjusted. I doubt if it's the pressure
regulator; Keith's the only one who's ever had problems with a pressure
regulator. I know he's had 2 fail, but not in that way. The pressure
regulators have a metal to metal valve/seat that should not change unless
there's something in there that can rust. I cut one of Keith's apart just to
see how they were made and they are pretty impressive. > Jim's kits are an
easy workaround for this. Yes, you're making a very simple problem into a
difficult one. -- ******************************* Jim Adney,
jadney at vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA *******************************
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