[T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 101, Issue 4
Davepatwms
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Thu Feb 7 15:43:40 PST 2019
VWs original part number for the automatic trans. Starter is 003 911 023 A’
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Automatic starters (William Jahn)
2. Re: Automatic starters (Jim Adney)
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 18:30:52 -0800
From: William Jahn <willjahn975 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [T3] Automatic starters
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I looked at he starter and it has the proper Bosch # per the Bentley 300 911 023A. It also says 321 Bosch 001 212 005 000. Then below EB an arrow pointing at EB then 12V 0.8 PS.
Let me know what email to send the photo?s to don?t think I can on type 3 here. I also has the solenoid and I can?t see any evidence it?s ever been apart based on no marks on the screws at all. I does turn by hand easy so I can hear the motor turn the other way it?s just the gear . I don?t see the number Jim had on it.
William
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From: Keith Park
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Subject: Re: [T3] Automatic starters
Thanks,
Keith
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Subject: Re: [T3] Automatic starters
This starter is not from the rust belt . I still need to check the part
number so I know it's the one you want. Not sure what price is right .
William
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From: Keith Park
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YEa, if the price is right Im interested.
pix would help, if its an OE Bosch then thats what Im looking for,
Thanks
Keith
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95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"
"hanging out at the tail end of the bell
curve, and loving every minute of it!"
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Subject: Re: [T3] Automatic starters
I might have one. In 84 I got a 72 auto trans car for spare parts. I have
the starter. All I know is the car sat for more than a few years and the
diff is had been changed . It still had the original engine via the case
number . If you want I can look at the numbers , all I have done is clean
off the dirt and crud . The car was driven . The auto trans was rebuilt ,
can't recall why it sat . I can take photo's of it if the numbers match and
send them to you if you like.
William
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From: Jim Adney
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 6:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [T3] Automatic starters
On 5 Feb 2019 at 19:18, Keith Park wrote:
> The starters they used in the auto cars, what other makes used the same T3
> starter? ie, bug or bus?
>
> if I can get one cheap enough I want to get a spare starter and since this
> is for the 2056, the auto starter with its slightly higher HP would be
best.
You're looking for a Bosch SR17X. According to my Bosch listing, this
was used on all aircooled AT VWs from '68-on. The one exception is
that it was also used on the '73-5 MT Things. The AT SR17X is rated
at 0.8 PS rather than the MT SR15X 0.7 PS. (PS = Pferd Starke =
horsepower.) 0.1 extra HP may not seem like much, but it turns out to
be a rather large % increase.
I think you'll find that all of these were originally made by Bosch,
but they could have been rebuilt by anyone. Even if you buy a Bosch
rebuild today, it may come in a Bosch box, but there's no telling who
actually rebuilt it.
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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 08:19:00 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
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Subject: Re: [T3] Automatic starters
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> Yea, this was the info I was looking for. Im pretty sure the FLAP
would
> have a generic, vwtype3.org
For things like starters, I don't think? there are any generics.
You'll only find Bosch, but they might be Brazilian Bosch. Still, they
would have been made to the same standards as the OG parts. Once the
cars are more than a few years out of production, there are plenty of
cores out there, so there's no incentive for anyone to pour new parts
into the market.
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