[T3] Stupid question #395 Oil change time?

Keith Park topnotch at nycap.rr.com
Tue Jul 2 17:32:26 PDT 2019

ill bet between McMaster carr, MSC and Grainger, SOMEONE has that FI sleeve!
if not I do have a couple good ones...


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From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org]
On Behalf Of Soren Jacobsen
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 2:35 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Stupid question #395 Oil change time?

> On Jun 28, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Jim Adney <jadney at vwtype3.org> wrote:
> On 27 Jun 2019 at 22:42, Soren Jacobsen wrote:
>> I hate to admit it, but I've avoided using modern fuel hose in my
>> engine compartments because I simply can't stand the look of it and
>> the engine compartment is the most aesthetically important area of the
>> car to me.
> Most of you don't remember what the FI engines looked like when they were 
> new. Yes, the hoses had exposed braid, but that was covered by some grey 
> vinyl sleeving that made the exposed braid invisible except at the very
> where the single-loop Oetiker hose clamps were. There was very little
> visible and no screw type hose clamps of any kind.

Guess I'll add "NLA grey vinyl sleeving" to my list of reasons FI is too
scary ;)

> I'd LOVE to find a source for grey vinyl sleeving, because I suspect that
> provided one more layer of heat shielding that kept the gas from boiling 
> during the heat soak after shutdown.

That makes sense.  After all, VW seemed concerned with heat soak / vapor
lock in the type 3 engine compartment from the very beginning.  They never
bothered with heat shields on type 1 fuel pumps.

>> There's also this braided stuff, which I haven't bought yet but probably
will in the near future:
> You'd have to buy the 5 mm stuff to fit on your 6 mm fittings, which is a
> stretch, whereas 10% stretch is the max recommended. Our original 7 mm FI 
> hoses tended to fail where they were stretched over 8 mm tubing, so VW 
> changed to 7.5 mm hose.

Yeah, the 10% stretch limit is one of the interesting bits I picked up from
that Volksbolts page.  I'm not sure it'll be any worse in practice than what
I've been using, though.  I believe most of the other braided hose that's
commonly available through VW parts suppliers is 5mm as well.  My primary
source, Wolfsbürg West, lists it as 5mm.  They could be truncating for
simplicity, I suppose.  Bughaus lists 5mm.  ISP West lists 5mm.  cip1 lists

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