[T3] 73 type 3 FI ignition condenser ?

[William Jahn]

If I recall we talked about this a while back . There were also other I forget whom who said that even the FI distributors had this 3 degree #3 retard . If your books say so I’ll takes that as they don’t. I don’t know how I would tell. 

 I just wanted to add since I keep forgetting things and have added posts on posts all related. On the Bosch points that you measured 1.5 and 2.5 pounds . The set I got fits the higher 2.5 lb made in Mexico and have the dab of grease behind the rubbing block I didn’t get the ones made in Brazil . Most sites at least the ones I use is Amazon since most add $7.50 shipping , the set I got made in Mexico are the worse set of points I’ve ever come across , no one part is straight , not the base or the arm that hold the spring and wire lead and the rubbing block is huge, twice as tall as the old German Bosch . As I said before perhaps there are bad batches and the other issue is even if ordered on J-Bugs they list it a one part number 01011 although J-Bugs does sell the higher spring tension as a different number and there is a set made by Empi that is the higher spring which I don’t need. The other set of points I got off Amazon were titled as OEM and I felt that meant OEM yet they are made in Taiwan , this is the set with the E clip on the pivot . I will say one thing , they are better made than the Mexico bosch I got , the contacts are aligned , the only issue as with the Mexico Bosch is the base is not flat. I didn’t feel like trying to flatten them , it seems the only way it to remove the arm and try to hammer them flat and even , I don’t feel filing the base is a good idea since it will remove the plating and might rust plus the pivot pin opposite the mount screw is in the way. I had to file the Pertronix base a bit because it was not flat yet it’s aluminum . they rivet the module to the base and that area was not flat .

 The AH dist I have in the car now does have a bit of cam wear that I can see yet it does not seem to leave any marks on the points rubbing block . It’s no worse than when I got the car and I always cleaned it well and used a thin layer of Bosch dist grease. I have no idea what the previous owner/s did.  

 I may have mentioned this before , since Pertronix told me about a year ago when I asked if they can cause a miss , I was told they can either fail completely or in other ways and one is a miss. In your last email response you brought up the miss I was having with a test I could try. The reason why I want to try points again is mainly to rule this out as a possibility since I need to unplug the IAD temp sensor to get it running even at idle . If the Pertronix is not the cause then I’ll just leave the condenser mounted and put the Pertronix back in . It’s just one possible cause of the idle issue I have and if the Pertronx does fail all I have to do is put the points back in. I can only take the word of the people I spoke to there , they seem to know what they are talking about.
 When I was having the pinging issue I had the dist an AF I think from the 72 in the car and I cleaned and rebuilt the AH and it had no bushing or shaft wear yet the point plate as different , on the AH the braided ground lead is short and the Pertronix would set on top of it so I took the one out of the AF , cleaned and lubed it and put it in the AH , they were the exact same thing other than the braided ground was longer and sits over the advance arm and allows the Pertroix to fit. 

William

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From: Jim Adney
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:02 AM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] 73 type 3 FI ignition condenser ?

On 19 Mar 2019 at 18:59, William Jahn wrote:

>  I forgot another thing about Pertronix. IsnTMt there a 3 degree retard
>  of cylinder #3 that the pertronix does not allow for?

I have a copy of a memo from Bosch that calls out the VW distributors that 
had the retarded #3. The FI distributors are not mentioned.

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