[T3] Valvoline engine oil.

[William Jahn]

Amazon sells this yet will not ship to Calif. I realize it's not a high
mileage oil yet Valvoline did say it has plenty of detergent. I'm not sure
why it would need to be changed more often unless it's the zinc that breaks
down. I don't know much about oil and all my 73 t3 has is the screen yet
since I don't drive it more than 400 to 500 miles per year I change it each
year so maybe it would be fine. The O'reilly's here do not sell it by case,
just quarts as far as their site shows.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:10 AM Brion Sabbatino <brionsab at msn.com> wrote:

> Order a case and keep it for oil changes. Or head to the store in the not
> so good part of town.
>
> That way you have what you want to use on hand.
>
> With VR1 oil you need to change it more often. That's all.
>
> I no longer live in California and just pay for shipping of not locally
> readily available fluids.
>
> Brion S.
> S. Utah
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> Subject: [T3] Valvoline engine oil.
>
> No one sells the VR1 conventional here other than the 20W50 or O'reilly's
> which is located 5 miles from me in a bad area. I can order it from
> O'reilly's if I want to pay more for the shipping than one quart of oil ,
> or amazon who has third party sellers asking close to $12 per quart. So I
> got 6 quarts of Valvoline SAE 40 dino premium conventional for less from
> Amazon free shipping which is what I used last time.
>
>  I spoke to Valvoline and was told the VR1 dino was what they recommend in
> an air cooled VW . They did say I could mix them yet each batch has a
> window on the ZDDP content could be more or less than stated . Basically
> they said there is no way to know what the ZDDP content is if mixed yet it
> would be higher if mixed and the two are compatible.
>
>  They told me the VR1 does have detergent and has 1400ppm zinc and 1300 ppm
> phosphorus . The SAE 40 premium dino has 760 ppm zinc and 690 ppm
> phosphorus. I imagine better than half is better than none, and so far I've
> had no issues with it. The VR1 is probably fine since it's not long service
> oil yet we change at low mileage.
>
>  If I could buy the VR1 easily I would yet here in Calif they make this
> difficult and I have no idea why the 20W50 is one I can get anywhere.
>
>  If I recall since my engine has the German cam broken in it's hardened as
> are the NOS lifters I used. Valvoline also told me the O'reilly brand is
> not repackaged. Valvoline this is only Napa and a few others.
>
>  I do have just enough VR1 SAE 40 for one oil change I got from O'reilly
> this is how I know what the area looks like. I'm not decided if I should
> use this and add the conventional to keep the level correct. I am not
> convinced the VR1 will not possibly cause issues I do not have now.
>
>  Thoughts?
>
> William
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