[T3] hanger bar on 68 notchback

[Jim Adney]

Mark, you raise an interesting question. I only checked the parts list for the 
rear mount crossbar itself. After reading your post, below, I tried to find the 
body mounts that you describe, and finally found them on the engine 
mounting parts page. Oddly, those parts changed in '69. So they were 
different in the first '68 ATs.

Unfortunately, my parts book only covers Squares, Fastys, and Notches.For 
some parts, Type 34s are covered, but it's hard to tell. I have the microfilm 
for Ghias, both Types 1 & 3, but I don't have a decent way to read it. So I'm 
unable to tell if they show up for all, or a larger number of, '68 Type 34 
bodies. It's also possible that they were installed in more Type 34 bodies 
than got mated to AT pans. VW might not make that clear in the Type 34 
parts list since the parts list was for the purpose of repairs, and those parts 
would only have been needed for repair of AT '68 Type 34s.  

Your 3/68 AT/IRS/dual carb 345 fits perfectly with the fact that the Type 3 AT 
started with VIN 3X8 015 226 and only came with dual Solex carbs in that 
year. All Type 3 ATs were IRS. Yours must have been one of the very first 
ones. Looking at the carbs section, I see that only the first pair, L & R, of AT 
(M249) carbs came with the altitude correctors. I can't tell how long that pair 
was used, but there were several L/R pairs used on AT cars after that.

As an aside, it's interesting to note that there were 52 different PDSIT carbs 
used over the years on Type 3s. I assume that's about half lefts and half 
rights. The ones with the altitude correctors were the 311 129 027/8 B 
versions. I don't think the altitude correctors have ever come up on this 
forum before. It looks like they were only fitted to Type 34s like yours.

My own '68 Square (RIP) was FI/MT, so it was swing axle. It's OE engine 
case had the cast bosses for the rear mount, but they had not been drilled, 
tapped, and Helicoiled for the rear mount crossbar. I believe that case had a 
211 part number in the casting, which is consistent with the fact that Type 2s 
got a crossbar starting in '68. (I think; correct me on that if I'm wrong.) That 
car's body did not have the hanger mounts for the rear crossbar. Most '68s 
that I've seen did not have the cast in bosses.

So you've got TWO Type 34s. I hope you'll forgive me for a moment of envy.   
;-)

Thanks for providing your interesting additional information.

Jim

On 12 Mar 2020 at 20:45, Mark Poulton wrote:

> Jim I can confirm that I have a 9/67 built RHD T344 manual swing axle car (owned since 8/85), which has all the factory IRS rear body pressings each side for the body mount to hanger bar. The original engine does not have the castings for the hanger bar bolts though. So as far as T34 was concerned these were in each shell for both manual and auto cars from 68 model year production. 
> 
> I also have a 3/68 auto car model 345 that was delivered new in Germany with the full IRS and solex carbs fitted with altitude correctors and the unique 905P distributor. The pan for each car incidentally has the specific fittings for the chosen gearbox only.

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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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