[T3] Noisy Tranny

[Keith Park]

Yea, I hate to run anything but an unmolested original, but with the big
motor in there, it needs some beefing up and yes, a HIGHER final gear.
First and second are the same so I think the R&P are stock, but I don’t
remember for sure.  The tranny I sent as a core was NOT the one they
rebuild, so 
Who knows what I got.

It DOES work fine, but it has a bad bearing, hopefully they don’t need to
rebuild and replace everything again to replace that, an probably other
bearings that
Should have been changed in the first place.

I tried to get a hold of steedle today, but it doesn’t appear its really an
official business, or at least, they have so much work they don’t need to
advertise as they don’t 
Have a website, their Instagram is static (and without an account,
unviewable to the user) and both phone numbers I found for them are not
correct.

I cant have the Tranny out of the car for 3 months either.

Ill have to do some digging on the Samba, maybe see if I can contact Raby
again and see who he is currently recommending for a tranny guy...  he
builds enough
Big motors that he needs something reliable to bolt them to.

No, I don’t expect the 298Kmi I got out of the original tranny, but 100K
would be nice...  not 30!

Topnotch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.topnotchresto.com
71 Squareback  “Hothe”
65 Notchback  “El Baja Rojo”
93 RX7  “Redstur”
13 Subaru Outback "Blendin"

-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org <type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org> On
Behalf Of Jim Adney
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 6:32 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Noisy Tranny

On 25 Sep 2023 at 19:58, Keith Park wrote:

> ItTMs a freeway flyer, I think they changed 3rd and 4th, I know 4th is 
> lower.

Don't you mean higher? But there are not a lot of possibilities available.
I'd expect a FF to require a different R/P.

> they shipped it back to me in a cardboard box so the input shaft could 
> have taken A hit and damaged the bearing or it was shot to begin with.

Yeah, who knows what that might cause. It would be so easy to bolt a 2x4
with a hole in it across the bell housing to protect the input shaft.

There are SO MANY possibilities of things that can go wrong. For example, do
you KNOW that you got all your original tranny case parts back? If not, they
may not be a matched set. Or maybe something simply came loose, because it
wasn't properly tightened or locked in place.  

A careful reading of the tranny chapter in the brown Bentley is daunting,
frustrating, and scary. It explains why so few rebuilds get done correctly. 
Frankly, it's just too tempting to take shortcuts and hope no one notices.

Simple rebuilds, that include replacements of bearings and sync. rings are
easy, and can be done with normal care, but the minute you start replacing
anything else, the effort skyrockets. Even with the factory jigs, replacing
the R/P may take a half dozen tries, by someone who actually knows what he's
doing. Double that if you're trying to use used or mismatched parts, which
is probably a bad idea in the first place. Plus, there's more than one nose
cone, and they can't be mixed and matched.

It's not that no one can do it right, it's just that it's not possible to
charge enough to make it commercially viable, except for the most mundane
jobs.

Keith, you and I both expect factory reliability out of our cars. For
transmissions, I believe there are only three ways to do this: find a
suitable factory transmission that fits your needs, find someone who is
willing and able to do the job for a small fortune, or, to be sure about it,
buy or build the tools and parts necessary to do it yourself. The first
option is generally cheap, but hard or impossible to find, and I doubt the
viability of the second option; that game is rigged against you. The third
option is reliable, but only after a couple of failures, due to the learning
curve, plus it's both expensive and time consuming.

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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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