<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Good to know about possible flaps inside brake hoses causing problems. One thing though: Is it likely that more than one hose will go flappy inside at the same time? That is....car pulling to one side or the other during braking ought be a symptom of interior flaps. Yes? No?</div><div><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">[PS: This can be part of yet another chapter for a repair manual...by someone...for OLD T-3s. The regular books don't say nothin' about what to do about rusted, frozen nuts, or electric wire deterioration, about maybe weakened grounds due to rust or corrosion, hardened or
rotted rubber, rust in and around axle beams, seized or tight calipers, getting clocks working right, getting clutch adjustment wing-nut loose, using new technology (at the paint shop) to get the color to match 40 year old paint, and...well...we all know the rest. ]<br></div><div><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:08:22 -0400 (EDT)<br>From: <a href="mailto:Bobsnotch@aol.com">Bobsnotch@aol.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [T3] Brake Hose Bracket, etc.<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:443e6.6609e74b.3fa501c6@aol.com">443e6.6609e74b.3fa501c6@aol.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>In a message dated 11/1/2013 12:12:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <br><a
href="mailto:pfeilmat@sbcglobal.net">pfeilmat@sbcglobal.net</a> writes:<br> <br>If the hose is wearing internally, sometimes they can form flaps that act <br>as check valves, keeping fluid pressurized to brakes after the pedal is <br>released. Matt P<br>New Guy to this list.<br>71 Squareback<br><br>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:09 PM, "J. Jonik" <<a href="mailto:j_jonik@yahoo.com">j_jonik@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> How the heck can one diagnose a Brake Hose going bad internally? <br><br><br>Basically it's like Matt said above. When you release the brakes (take <br>your foot off the pedal), and you still feel some dragging at low speed, <br>that's collapsed hoses. The thing is, if you ignore that drag when the brakes <br>are still cold, the next time you use them (once they've warmed up), the drag <br>is even more noticeable, because the fluid has expanded in the lines
<br>building pressure and keeping the calipers energized. <br> <br>In my case, I thought the PO had replaced the master cylinder with the <br>wrong one (1 with compensating valves/ports according to Bentley), so I <br>swapped it again, only to have the same issue. At this point, only the hoses <br>hadn't been replaced, as it now had a new master cylinder, new calipers, and <br>new front rotors (they were worn below their limit), so I replaced the hoses, <br>and everything was good to go. Lesson learned, that these hoses collapse <br>internally. I'd never ran into it before, but then all of my experience prior <br> was with domestic vehicles, and those crack externally when they go bad. <br><br>Bob 65 Notch S w/Sunroof and IRS aka Krusty<br>64 T-34 Ghia aka Wolfie<br>71 Square-vert under construction</div></div></body></html>