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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr readonly="true" contenteditable="false"></DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jacob Adam Schroeder <jacob.schroeder@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "type3@vwtype3.org" <type3@vwtype3.org> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:52 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [T3] 034 on Squareback<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=y_msg_container><BR>So if I understand this correctly . . . because any retardation of #3 is<BR>based on the cam lobe, then running an electronic ignition (like Pertronix)<BR>would also not have the retardation. This would be because the points are<BR>opened/closed by sensors on the plate and the special rotor (probably<BR>evenly distributed across their rotor). Is my logic correct?<BR><BR><BR>On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Dave Hall <<A href="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk" ymailto="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk">dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> ISTR Bob reported that using the timing light on #1 and #3 showed it to be<BR>> true for his distributor, but MMCBW (My Memory Could Be Wrong!).<BR>><BR>> If it started in March 1966 that would cover most of the Type 3s still on<BR>> the road. Maybe it was found to be a problem when VW introduced the 1600<BR>> engines.<BR>><BR>>
Dave.<BR>> UK VW Type 3&4 Club<BR>> ===================<BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</A><BR>> [mailto:<A href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</A>] On Behalf Of Jim<BR>> Adney<BR>> Sent: 21 January 2014 16:32<BR>> To: <A href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [T3] 034 on Squareback<BR>><BR>> On 21 Jan 2014 at 7:44, Brian Fye wrote:<BR>><BR>> > I run 009 and 050 units on my type 3s. I have never found any<BR>> > evidence that #3 is worse off. I believe that having your tin without<BR>> > the foam around the cooler is a
bigger issue.<BR>><BR>> Good point. The OG foam has all disintegrated by now. If it's left out,<BR>> there's a large space above the oil cooler where air can slip by and escape<BR>> without doing any cooling at all. Quite a few years ago I found a good foam<BR>> substitute that holds up better than the OG stuff.<BR>> I have a supply of it and can make replacements for engines where it is<BR>> missing.<BR>><BR>> I have a Service Bulletin from Robert Bosch, dated March 1966, that<BR>> describes which VW distributors were made with the retarded #3 cam lobe.<BR>> The<BR>> bulletin seems to imply that this is somewhat new, as of this date. The<BR>> retardation is 2 dist degrees, or 4 crankshaft degrees. The affected<BR>> distributors were:<BR>><BR>> 0 237 137 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 012, 014<BR>><BR>> 0 231 147 002, 006, 007<BR>><BR>> I'm afraid I don't have any later Bosch info on this. It's
probably worth<BR>> mentioning that Gene Berg mentions in one of his writeups that he's never<BR>> come across a VW distributor with the retarded #3 cam lobe, so it's clear<BR>> that it wasn't done universally.<BR>><BR>> --<BR>> *******************************<BR>> Jim Adney, <A href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</A><BR>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA<BR>> *******************************<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> VWType3.Org mailing list - <A href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</A><BR>> <A href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target=_blank>http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</A><BR>> Contact <A href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</A> if you need help with the list.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
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