<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4409">Yes, the third fuse from the right ((71 T III) had invisible break. It was a white fuse. Replaced with another white fuse. Horn didn't start working but the Turn Signals did..which they hadn't before.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4471" dir="ltr"> Who knows which of my half-dozen spar horn actually work? <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4771" dir="ltr">Then....attempting to drive 7 miles to girlfriend's house, got static on the radio, still persistent acceleration hesitation, and turn signals didn't work.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4472" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4473" dir="ltr"> Is all that clue to why, after a few miles, car would not accelerate, both oil and gen red lights went on, and car died? Trying to start got zero effects. No cranking. Nothing.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4769" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4770" dir="ltr">Could that insane revving have damaged starter and/or solenoid? (I have spares in the collection.) Battery checks out at top "good". Maybe Voltage Regulator? <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4831" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4832" dir="ltr"> It's easy to fix or replace anything....but not so ease to diagnose.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4594" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4595" dir="ltr">This is all after last week's HUGE, insane, Revving of the engine by a muffler shop worker...blowing soot out of muffler. After that, car's never been the same. Good idle, but really irregular acceleration. And now it's stuck miles from my house. No clue to where to start fixing or replacing something(s);</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4947" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4948" dir="ltr">Generator Brushes seem a tad short. If too short, could that account for A) Radio static, or B) worse?<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4474"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4475"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4365" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4364" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1413693264522_4389" class="y_msg_container"> 7. Re: Horn Problem (Dave Hall)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:05:42 -0400<br>From: "Keith Park" <<a ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>><br>To: <<a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [T3] In the strangest of places...<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4D.EB.05721.F4D50445@cdptpa-oedge03" href="mailto:4D.EB.05721.F4D50445@cdptpa-oedge03">4D.EB.05721.F4D50445@cdptpa-oedge03</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Interesting, yea, amazing where they pop up!<br>on careful look, the 6V is probably GV<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Keith<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Dave Hall<br>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:23 AM<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [T3] In the strangest of places...<br><br>It's listed as Type 3 from Ch 318 000 001 to 319 500 000 in the Type 3 parts<br>book as well, with no reference to voltage. I guess apart from being<br>beefier contacts and any attached wiring, it would work fine on 12V anyway.<br>Maybe they did supply some later vehicles with 6V systems - they seem to<br>have still been supplying 1500cc engines through into the '70s, if not to<br>the end of production. Do the wires on the switch look like 6V rated - ie<br>thicker than the 12V ones?<br><br>I can't begin to suggest how it came to be there anyway - maybe he bought an<br>auction lot of pans and it was in with that!<br><br>Dave<br>UK VW Type 3&4 Club<br>===================<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Soren Jacobsen<br>Sent: 16 October 2014 04:11<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [T3] In the strangest of places...<br><br>On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Keith Park <<a ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I found a directional switch assy, 311 953 513B it says 6V on it, but <br>> its not one of<br>> <br>> the early ones with the integral high beam switch. Anyone tell me <br>> what year?<br><br>It's a Bug switch, from 1968-1970. <br><br>311 953 513 B Indicator switch-upper part .................... 1<br> from Chassis No. 118 000 001 up to 110 3100 000<br><br>Soren<br>_______________________________________________<br>VWType3.Org mailing list - <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a> To unsubscribe or change<br>subscription options, visit:<br><a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br>If you need more help, contact: <a ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br><br><br>---<br>This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus<br>protection is active.<br><a href="http://www.avast.com/" target="_blank">http://www.avast.com</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>VWType3.Org mailing list - <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br>To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br><a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br>If you need more help, contact: <a ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:30:00 -0500<br>From: "Jim Adney" <<a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>><br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [T3] In the strangest of places...<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:54407118.7545.DE2AD4@jadney.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:54407118.7545.DE2AD4@jadney.vwtype3.org">54407118.7545.DE2AD4@jadney.vwtype3.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On 16 Oct 2014 at 20:05, Keith Park wrote:<br><br>> Interesting, yea, amazing where they pop up!<br>> on careful look, the 6V is probably GV<br><br>What would GV stand for? I could understand SWF or Klippan, but I <br>don't recall seeing GV before.<br><br>-- <br>*******************************<br>Jim Adney, <a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a><br>Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br>*******************************<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:38:37 -0400<br>From: "John L. Morgan IV" <<a ymailto="mailto:emailjohnmorgan@gmail.com" href="mailto:emailjohnmorgan@gmail.com">emailjohnmorgan@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "<a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br>Subject: [T3] Roof rack fastback<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:CAKc6K5hcfnoV6TbGLFOaR6oTpsa9EYZqzaQuJHUT_ctzvU1ZuQ@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:CAKc6K5hcfnoV6TbGLFOaR6oTpsa9EYZqzaQuJHUT_ctzvU1ZuQ@mail.gmail.com">CAKc6K5hcfnoV6TbGLFOaR6oTpsa9EYZqzaQuJHUT_ctzvU1ZuQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Does anyone have plans he can share for making a wood slat rack with a pipe<br>bender?<br><br>On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Jim Adney <<a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> On 16 Oct 2014 at 20:05, Keith Park wrote:<br>><br>> > Interesting, yea, amazing where they pop up!<br>> > on careful look, the 6V is probably GV<br>><br>> What would GV stand for? I could understand SWF or Klippan, but I<br>> don't recall seeing GV before.<br>><br>> --<br>> *******************************<br>> Jim Adney, <a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a> <javascript:;><br>> Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br>> *******************************<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> VWType3.Org mailing list - <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a> <javascript:;><br>> To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br>> <a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br>> If you need more help, contact: <a ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a> <javascript:;><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141016/5b1738cf/attachment.htm" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141016/5b1738cf/attachment.htm</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:36:00 -0700<br>From: Soren Jacobsen <<a ymailto="mailto:snj@blef.org" href="mailto:snj@blef.org">snj@blef.org</a>><br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [T3] In the strangest of places...<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:3AD6F5E7-A3EF-4821-81A5-9676AFE7B996@blef.org" href="mailto:3AD6F5E7-A3EF-4821-81A5-9676AFE7B996@blef.org">3AD6F5E7-A3EF-4821-81A5-9676AFE7B996@blef.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Jim Adney <<a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> On 16 Oct 2014 at 20:05, Keith Park wrote:<br>> <br>>> Interesting, yea, amazing where they pop up!<br>>> on careful look, the 6V is probably GV<br>> <br>> What would GV stand for? I could understand SWF or Klippan, but I <br>> don't recall seeing GV before.<br><br>Is Klippan the name of the company with the circle K logo? I always wondered what that stood for.<br><br>Soren<br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 23:05:02 -0500<br>From: "Jim Adney" <<a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>><br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [T3] In the strangest of places...<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:5440956E.7479.16C1CC8@jadney.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:5440956E.7479.16C1CC8@jadney.vwtype3.org">5440956E.7479.16C1CC8@jadney.vwtype3.org</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On 16 Oct 2014 at 20:36, Soren Jacobsen wrote:<br><br>> Is Klippan the name of the company with the circle K logo? I always<br>> wondered what that stood for. <br><br>I THINK that's correct.<br><br>-- <br>*******************************<br>Jim Adney, <a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a><br>Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br>*******************************<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:28:56 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: "J. Jonik" <<a ymailto="mailto:j_jonik@yahoo.com" href="mailto:j_jonik@yahoo.com">j_jonik@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: Type 3 <<a ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org@lists.vwtype3.org</a>><br>Subject: [T3] Horn Problem<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:738830327.153956.1413570536892.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100130.mail.ne1.yahoo.com" href="mailto:738830327.153956.1413570536892.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100130.mail.ne1.yahoo.com">738830327.153956.1413570536892.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100130.mail.ne1.yahoo.com</a>><br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>71 T III....Horn worked yesterday, although the beep wasn't strong. ? A week or so ago, having horn trouble, I took off the steering wheel and found that the small wire to the plastic center piece was barely attached, with broken female connector. ? ?Fixed that and the horn worked...but still weakly.<br>But I didn't properly align the steering wheel in it notched seat, so I moved it around to right setting. ?Then, horn didn't work at all. ? With steering wheel off, Touching the wire to the metal got sparks, and sometimes a decent beep.<br>But, after checking the wires at the horn itself, now there's no sparks and no beep. ?One wire to the horn checks out as getting juice. ?Crossing the two wire connectors (still on their horn tabs) got nothing. ? ?Should that have made the horn beep? ? Or, is that ground wire faulty?<br>Also, under the steering wheel, there's all this stuff linked to the turn signal. ?But the two brass (or copper?) bent tabs on top both have worn crumbly holes smack in the middle. Could it be that they aren't making proper contact with the steering wheel?<br>Then, how to replace that component? ? Bentley has nothing on this. ?BUT, Bentley shows How-To for turn signal in that same area and says to Disconnect Ground Strap at battery. ? Must that strap be disconnected to do horn work in the steering column too?<br>I MAY have spare parts somewhere.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141017/1f473dc0/attachment.htm" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141017/1f473dc0/attachment.htm</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 01:13:11 +0100<br>From: "Dave Hall" <<a ymailto="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk" href="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk">dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk</a>><br>To: <<a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [T3] Horn Problem<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:9E00684C4BA74ACD89B5CD6638FCC957@DavidPC" href="mailto:9E00684C4BA74ACD89B5CD6638FCC957@DavidPC">9E00684C4BA74ACD89B5CD6638FCC957@DavidPC</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Is the horn fuse still OK? I think it's a 16 amp (red) one. If you've been<br>shorting the wires, you may have blown a fuse.<br><br>Alternatively, if the horn was only weak, it may be that it's the horn that<br>is not in good shape. It may be worth removing it and trying it out direct<br>on the battery. Don't make sparks near the battery top though, just in case<br>something nasty happens.<br>If the horn does not work when tested, they can be dismantled and the<br>vibrating contacts cleaned, but sometimes fixing screws can be very rusty<br>and may even need drilling out, and replaced with small bolts. <br><br>The spring contacts can wear through, or sometimes there is a bit of<br>corrosion on them or the contact ring in the wheel itself.<br><br>The reason Bentley says to disconnect the battery negative is to make sure<br>you don't burn out un-fused wiring or cause a fire when messing with it!<br><br>Dave<br>UK VW Type 3&4 Club<br>===================<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br>On Behalf Of J. Jonik<br>Sent: 17 October 2014 19:29<br>To: Type 3<br>Subject: [T3] Horn Problem<br><br>71 T III....Horn worked yesterday, although the beep wasn't strong. ? A week<br>or so ago, having horn trouble, I took off the steering wheel and found that<br>the small wire to the plastic center piece was barely attached, with broken<br>female connector. ? ?Fixed that and the horn worked...but still weakly.<br>But I didn't properly align the steering wheel in it notched seat, so I<br>moved it around to right setting. ?Then, horn didn't work at all. ? With<br>steering wheel off, Touching the wire to the metal got sparks, and sometimes<br>a decent beep.<br>But, after checking the wires at the horn itself, now there's no sparks and<br>no beep. ?One wire to the horn checks out as getting juice. ?Crossing the<br>two wire connectors (still on their horn tabs) got nothing. ? ?Should that<br>have made the horn beep? ? Or, is that ground wire faulty?<br>Also, under the steering wheel, there's all this stuff linked to the turn<br>signal. ?But the two brass (or copper?) bent tabs on top both have worn<br>crumbly holes smack in the middle. Could it be that they aren't making<br>proper contact with the steering wheel?<br>Then, how to replace that component? ? Bentley has nothing on this. ?BUT,<br>Bentley shows How-To for turn signal in that same area and says to<br>Disconnect Ground Strap at battery. ? Must that strap be disconnected to do<br>horn work in the steering column too?<br>I MAY have spare parts somewhere.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><<a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141017/1" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141017/1</a><br>f473dc0/attachment.htm><br>_______________________________________________<br>VWType3.Org mailing list - <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a> To unsubscribe or change<br>subscription options, visit:<br><a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br>If you need more help, contact: <a ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br><br><br>---<br>This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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