<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="" class=""><span style="" class="">Power through fuses; the head lights and parking lights come on.</span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">BUT tail lights, brake lights, turn signals & back up lights still dead.</span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">a .2 volt leak occurs over the b</span><span style=""
class="">attery..<br style="" class=""></span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">any ideas as to WHY?</span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="" class="">thanx, KO<br style="" class=""></span></div><div style="" class=""> </div><div style="" class="">I don't shop where I can't charge.</div><div style="" class=""><br style="" class=""></div> <div class="" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div class="" style="font-family:
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ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">_______________________________________________<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Today's Topics:<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""> 1. Re: Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric (Keith Park)<br style="" class=""> 2. Re: Car won't start... (Keith Park)<br style="" class=""> 3. Re: Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric (Adriel Rowley)<br style="" class=""> 4. Re: Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric (Daniel K. Du Vall)<br style="" class=""> 5. Re: Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric (Adriel Rowley)<br style="" class=""> 6. Re: Starter Solenoid Testing (Dave Hall)<br style="" class=""> 7. Re: Car won't start... (Dave Hall)<br style="" class=""> 8. Re: Starter Solenoid Testing (Dave Hall)<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br
style="" class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Message: 1<br style="" class="">Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:11:46 -0400<br style="" class="">From: "Keith Park" <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>><br style="" class="">To: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">Message-ID: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:AA.12.06380.628E6445@cdptpa-oedge03" href="mailto:AA.12.06380.628E6445@cdptpa-oedge03">AA.12.06380.628E6445@cdptpa-oedge03</a>><br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">MSD or McMaster carr, you can get whatever
quality you want <br style="" class="">depending on how much you want to spend.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Keith<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Topnotch Restorations<br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om">topnotch@nycap.rr.om</a><br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm" target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br style="" class="">71 Squareback "Hothe"<br style="" class="">65 Squareback "Eggcrate"<br style="" class="">65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br style="" class="">93 RX7 "Redstur"<br style="" class="">87 Golf "Winterat"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class=""
ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">On Behalf Of Adriel Rowley<br style="" class="">Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:48 PM<br style="" class="">To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">Subject: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Anyone have any experience with BelMetric? Looks like they might actually<br style="" class="">have quality hardware; found them through a Porsche site. Sick of dealing<br style="" class="">with junk hardware and want smooth interaction.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">I was looking at them for the Mercedes' horn screws, and thinking if I do<br style="" class="">order, be good to get a few other bits to make shipping worth it.
I know the<br style="" class="">M8 is common, but what other specifications? Course or fine? Length? Any<br style="" class="">other sizes?<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Thank you so very much!<br style="" class="">Adriel<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">P.S. Came home to find the wire arrived. Made of polyethylene plastic, so<br style="" class="">has a soft matte finish and colors are WAY different than the same German<br style="" class="">color. Bothers my O.C.D., but then if I used the exact, the new custodian<br style="" class="">wouldn't know what was replaced. ;p<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class=""><br
style="" class="">_______________________________________________<br style="" class="">VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">If you need more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">------------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Message: 2<br style="" class="">Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:37:45 -0400<br style="" class="">From: "Keith Park" <<a style="" class=""
ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>><br style="" class="">To: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Car won't start...<br style="" class="">Message-ID: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:7F.DC.24634.D3EE6445@cdptpa-oedge01" href="mailto:7F.DC.24634.D3EE6445@cdptpa-oedge01">7F.DC.24634.D3EE6445@cdptpa-oedge01</a>><br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">With the ignition on, check voltage at the coil, you can manually work the<br style="" class="">points with a screwdriver (touch ONLY the insulated handle)and see if you<br style="" class="">can get a spark out of the center of the coil to ground by placing that wire<br style="" class="">close to it. Listen for fuel
pump. no starts if its an FI problem can only<br style="" class="">be a couple things, bad head temp sensor, open circuit to trigger contacts<br style="" class="">or dirty contacts or a bad ground at the ground gang.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Keith<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Topnotch Restorations<br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om">topnotch@nycap.rr.om</a><br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm" target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br style="" class="">71 Squareback ?Hothe?<br style="" class="">65 Squareback ?Eggcrate?<br style="" class="">65 Notchback ?El Baja Rojo?<br style="" class="">93 RX7 ?Redstur?<br style="" class="">87 Golf ?Winterat?<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style=""
class="">-----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">On Behalf Of J. Jonik<br style="" class="">Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:24 PM<br style="" class="">To: Type 3; <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">Subject: [T3] Car won't start...<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">My non-working car's been flat-bedded home.? ''71 w/ ''73 engine, FI, stick.<br style="" class="">Just this for now.?? How to eliminate Ignition Switch as the problem?<br style="" class="">Symptoms:Key turn does it's thing with fuel relay. Nothing otherwise.<br style="" class="">Crossing Solenoid with Starter (key off) produces whirring
noise.Car<br style="" class="">backfired, lightly, twice when it died.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-------------- next part --------------<br style="" class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br style="" class="">URL:<br style="" class=""><<a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141021/0" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20141021/0</a><br style="" class="">e5300ec/attachment-0001.htm><br style="" class="">_______________________________________________<br style="" class="">VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org"
target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">If you need more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">------------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Message: 3<br style="" class="">Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:48:10 -0700<br style="" class="">From: Adriel Rowley <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:adriel_rowley@hotmail.com" href="mailto:adriel_rowley@hotmail.com">adriel_rowley@hotmail.com</a>><br style="" class="">To: "<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>" <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware
Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">Message-ID: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:COL131-W11A06F4E0DC2E8534D06DF9D940@phx.gbl" href="mailto:COL131-W11A06F4E0DC2E8534D06DF9D940@phx.gbl">COL131-W11A06F4E0DC2E8534D06DF9D940@phx.gbl</a>><br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Keith:<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">MSD??<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">So no common hardware sizes? Glad I have a bin and a bottle of spare hardware!<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Also, this was a good suggestion by another:?www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495414_200495414 I had a magnetic bowl, but was too small. Being clumsy, keep knocking the paper bowl over.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Thank you so very much!<br style="" class="">Adriel<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br
style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">----------------------------------------<br style="" class="">> From: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br style="" class="">> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:11:46 -0400<br style="" class="">> Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> MSD or McMaster carr, you can get whatever quality you
want<br style="" class="">> depending on how much you want to spend.<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Keith<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Topnotch Restorations<br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om">topnotch@nycap.rr.om</a><br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm" target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br style="" class="">> 71 Squareback "Hothe"<br style="" class="">> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"<br style="" class="">> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br style="" class="">> 93 RX7 "Redstur"<br style="" class="">> 87 Golf "Winterat"<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> -----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">> From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class=""
ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">> On Behalf Of Adriel Rowley<br style="" class="">> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:48 PM<br style="" class="">> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> Subject: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Anyone have any experience with BelMetric? Looks like they might actually<br style="" class="">> have quality hardware; found them through a Porsche site. Sick of dealing<br style="" class="">> with junk hardware and want smooth interaction.<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> I was looking at them for the Mercedes' horn screws, and thinking if I do<br style="" class="">> order, be
good to get a few other bits to make shipping worth it. I know the<br style="" class="">> M8 is common, but what other specifications? Course or fine? Length? Any<br style="" class="">> other sizes?<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Thank you so very much!<br style="" class="">> Adriel<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> P.S. Came home to find the wire arrived. Made of polyethylene plastic, so<br style="" class="">> has a soft matte finish and colors are WAY different than the same German<br style="" class="">> color. Bothers my O.C.D., but then if I used the exact, the new custodian<br style="" class="">> wouldn't know what was replaced. ;p<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> -------------------------<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> 1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">> 1985
Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">> Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> _______________________________________________<br style="" class="">> VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> If you need more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> _______________________________________________<br style="" class="">> VWType3.Org mailing list -
<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> If you need more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class=""> <br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">------------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Message: 4<br style="" class="">Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:59:41 +0000<br style="" class="">From: "Daniel K. Du Vall" <<a style="" class=""
ymailto="mailto:dduvall@1peter4-10.org" href="mailto:dduvall@1peter4-10.org">dduvall@1peter4-10.org</a>><br style="" class="">To: "<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>" <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">Message-ID:<br style="" class=""> <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:667a8b2ae79249a8a355d3ad6df87b02@BY2PR05MB109.namprd05.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:667a8b2ae79249a8a355d3ad6df87b02@BY2PR05MB109.namprd05.prod.outlook.com">667a8b2ae79249a8a355d3ad6df87b02@BY2PR05MB109.namprd05.prod.outlook.com</a>><br style="" class=""> <br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">In case the link did not
work for others here is another one that worked for me. <br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495414_200495414" target="_blank">http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495414_200495414</a><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>] On Behalf Of Adriel Rowley<br style="" class="">Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:48 PM<br style="" class="">To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Keith:<br
style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">MSD??<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">So no common hardware sizes? Glad I have a bin and a bottle of spare hardware!<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Also, this was a good suggestion by another:?www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495414_200495414 I had a magnetic bowl, but was too small. Being clumsy, keep knocking the paper bowl over.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Thank you so very much!<br style="" class="">Adriel<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style=""
class="">----------------------------------------<br style="" class="">> From: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br style="" class="">> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:11:46 -0400<br style="" class="">> Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> MSD or McMaster carr, you can get whatever quality you want depending <br style="" class="">> on how much you want to spend.<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Keith<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Topnotch Restorations<br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om"
href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om">topnotch@nycap.rr.om</a><br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm" target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br style="" class="">> 71 Squareback "Hothe"<br style="" class="">> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"<br style="" class="">> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br style="" class="">> 93 RX7 "Redstur"<br style="" class="">> 87 Golf "Winterat"<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> -----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">> From: type3-vwtype3.org <br style="" class="">> [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">> On Behalf Of Adriel Rowley<br style="" class="">> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:48 PM<br style=""
class="">> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> Subject: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Anyone have any experience with BelMetric? Looks like they might <br style="" class="">> actually have quality hardware; found them through a Porsche site. <br style="" class="">> Sick of dealing with junk hardware and want smooth interaction.<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> I was looking at them for the Mercedes' horn screws, and thinking if I <br style="" class="">> do order, be good to get a few other bits to make shipping worth it. I <br style="" class="">> know the<br style="" class="">> M8 is common, but what other specifications? Course or fine? Length? <br style="" class="">> Any other sizes?<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style=""
class="">> Thank you so very much!<br style="" class="">> Adriel<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> P.S. Came home to find the wire arrived. Made of polyethylene plastic, <br style="" class="">> so has a soft matte finish and colors are WAY different than the same <br style="" class="">> German color. Bothers my O.C.D., but then if I used the exact, the new <br style="" class="">> custodian wouldn't know what was replaced. ;p<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> -------------------------<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> 1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">> 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">> Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> _______________________________________________<br style="" class="">> VWType3.Org mailing list - <a
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class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">------------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Message: 5<br style="" class="">Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:06:44 -0700<br style="" class="">From: Adriel Rowley <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:adriel_rowley@hotmail.com" href="mailto:adriel_rowley@hotmail.com">adriel_rowley@hotmail.com</a>><br style="" class="">To: "<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>" <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">Message-ID: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:COL131-W4931AD5846591204B436F99D950@phx.gbl"
href="mailto:COL131-W4931AD5846591204B436F99D950@phx.gbl">COL131-W4931AD5846591204B436F99D950@phx.gbl</a>><br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Mr. Duvall:<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Thank you so very much for the correction! Copy and pasted, but some reason Hotmail lately has been messing up links. Long day so missed the other bits...<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Take care!<br style="" class="">Adriel<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br
style="" class="">----------------------------------------<br style="" class="">> From: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:dduvall@1peter4-10.org" href="mailto:dduvall@1peter4-10.org">dduvall@1peter4-10.org</a><br style="" class="">> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:59:41 +0000<br style="" class="">> Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> In case the link did not work for others here is another one that worked for me.<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" href="http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495414_200495414" target="_blank">http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495414_200495414</a><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> -----Original
Message-----<br style="" class="">> From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>] On Behalf Of Adriel Rowley<br style="" class="">> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:48 PM<br style="" class="">> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Keith:<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> MSD?<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> So no common hardware sizes? Glad I have a bin and a bottle of spare hardware!<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Also, this was a good suggestion by another:
www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200495414_200495414 I had a magnetic bowl, but was too small. Being clumsy, keep knocking the paper bowl over.<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> Thank you so very much!<br style="" class="">> Adriel<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> -------------------------<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> 1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">> 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">> Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">><br style="" class="">> ----------------------------------------<br style="" class="">>> From: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br
style="" class="">>> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">>> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:11:46 -0400<br style="" class="">>> Subject: Re: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> MSD or McMaster carr, you can get whatever quality you want depending<br style="" class="">>> on how much you want to spend.<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> Keith<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> Topnotch Restorations<br style="" class="">>> <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.om">topnotch@nycap.rr.om</a><br style="" class="">>> <a style="" class="" href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm"
target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br style="" class="">>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"<br style="" class="">>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"<br style="" class="">>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br style="" class="">>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"<br style="" class="">>> 87 Golf "Winterat"<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> -----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">>> From: type3-vwtype3.org<br style="" class="">>> [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">>> On Behalf Of Adriel Rowley<br style="" class="">>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:48 PM<br style="" class="">>> To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org"
href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">>> Subject: [T3] Common Hardware Sizes and BelMetric<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> Anyone have any experience with BelMetric? Looks like they might<br style="" class="">>> actually have quality hardware; found them through a Porsche site.<br style="" class="">>> Sick of dealing with junk hardware and want smooth interaction.<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> I was looking at them for the Mercedes' horn screws, and thinking if I<br style="" class="">>> do order, be good to get a few other bits to make shipping worth it. I<br style="" class="">>> know the<br style="" class="">>> M8 is common, but what other specifications? Course or fine? Length?<br style="" class="">>> Any other sizes?<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> Thank you
so very much!<br style="" class="">>> Adriel<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> P.S. Came home to find the wire arrived. Made of polyethylene plastic,<br style="" class="">>> so has a soft matte finish and colors are WAY different than the same<br style="" class="">>> German color. Bothers my O.C.D., but then if I used the exact, the new<br style="" class="">>> custodian wouldn't know what was replaced. ;p<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> -------------------------<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> 1971 Sunroof Squareback with F.I. - In the Process of Being Dog Wgn 2<br style="" class="">>> 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300TD-T - Dog Wgn<br style="" class="">>> Master's Student, A.S.U., living in north central Mesa, AZ<br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> _______________________________________________<br style=""
class="">>> VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a> To unsubscribe or change<br style="" class="">>> subscription options, visit:<br style="" class="">>> <a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">>> If you need more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">>><br style="" class="">>> _______________________________________________<br style="" class="">>> VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a> To unsubscribe or change<br style="" class="">>> subscription options, visit:<br
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ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> _______________________________________________<br style="" class="">> VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br style="" class="">> <a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">> If you need more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class=""> <br style="" class=""><br style=""
class="">------------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Message: 6<br style="" class="">Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 01:35:06 +0100<br style="" class="">From: "Dave Hall" <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk" href="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk">dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk</a>><br style="" class="">To: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Starter Solenoid Testing<br style="" class="">Message-ID: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:58883D5EFFF54DAA92C08419103782AC@DavidPC" href="mailto:58883D5EFFF54DAA92C08419103782AC@DavidPC">58883D5EFFF54DAA92C08419103782AC@DavidPC</a>><br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">If I've understood you right, I reckon that's just the solenoid moving but<br
style="" class="">unable to do anything else as there isn't enough power available from that<br style="" class="">circuit to drive the starter motor round. Not a good idea to do it - you may<br style="" class="">overload the ignition wire circuit and burn something out. That's certainly<br style="" class="">the noise I heard when trying to start the school minibus with jump leads<br style="" class="">after someone had left the inside lights on for several days - ie totally<br style="" class="">flat battery, and probably pretty poor quality jump leads!<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Dave<br style="" class="">UK VW Type 3&4 Club<br style="" class="">===================<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org"
href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">On Behalf Of J. Jonik<br style="" class="">Sent: 21 October 2014 22:21<br style="" class="">To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">Subject: [T3] Starter Solenoid Testing<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Bentley and Muir books aren't clear on what noises to expect when testing<br style="" class="">starter and solenoid.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Crossing the battery nut with solenoid nut (key off) gets a nice whirrrr.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">But...crossing battery with the small, plug-on Ignition Wire connection gets<br style="" class="">what sounds like a hammer factory....loud, very fast, chaotic clackity<br style="" class="">clack. Is that normal? If
not, what's at fault?<br style="" class="">And, what SHOULD it sound like?<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">PS--- This solenoid has no 4th connection...one labeled in Muir book as<br style="" class="">"fuel injection". It's a 73 FI engine. Shouldn't that FI wire be<br style="" class="">there...and where would be it's other end? It's all been fine for about ten<br style="" class="">years, but....<br style="" class="">_______________________________________________<br style="" class="">VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a> To unsubscribe or change<br style="" class="">subscription options, visit:<br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">If you need
more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">---<br style="" class="">This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.<br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://www.avast.com/" target="_blank">http://www.avast.com</a><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">------------------------------<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Message: 7<br style="" class="">Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 01:46:55 +0100<br style="" class="">From: "Dave Hall" <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk" href="mailto:dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk">dave@hallvw.clara.co.uk</a>><br style="" class="">To: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org"
href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Car won't start...<br style="" class="">Message-ID: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:E8A96FCC64BF4A3E9093C6182558DBC6@DavidPC" href="mailto:E8A96FCC64BF4A3E9093C6182558DBC6@DavidPC">E8A96FCC64BF4A3E9093C6182558DBC6@DavidPC</a>><br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Look by the battery for a thick red/white striped wire. Follow it behind<br style="" class="">the carpet towards the passenger seat. There should be a connector there.<br style="" class="">That comes from the starter switch. Look for voltage on that (between the<br style="" class="">connector and the chassis or battery negative) while turning the key to the<br style="" class="">start position. If no voltage but idiot lights are on, it sounds like the<br style=""
class="">starter switch part. All the more reason to incorporate a starting relay<br style="" class="">when you get things working. It's easy to do, and gets over quite a few<br style="" class="">different faults and saves the starter switch too. They're not getting any<br style="" class="">cheaper, or easier to find! <br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Then disconnect and touch rear part of that connector on battery +. Starter<br style="" class="">motor should whirr as if trying to start (same as connecting battery contact<br style="" class="">to solenoid at the starter motor). If it's not turning the engine over,<br style="" class="">that sounds like the starter motor gear isn't engaging the starter ring<br style="" class="">gear. Remove the starter motor and investigate. Damaged teeth? Gummed up<br style="" class="">shaft?<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-----Original Message-----<br
style="" class="">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">On Behalf Of J. Jonik<br style="" class="">Sent: 21 October 2014 17:24<br style="" class="">To: Type 3; <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">Subject: [T3] Car won't start...<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">My non-working car's been flat-bedded home.? ''71 w/ ''73 engine, FI, stick.<br style="" class="">Just this for now.?? How to eliminate Ignition Switch as the problem?<br style="" class="">Symptoms:Key turn does it's thing with fuel relay. Nothing otherwise.<br style="" class="">Crossing Solenoid with Starter (key off) produces whirring noise.Car<br style="" class="">backfired, lightly, twice
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href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Starter Solenoid Testing<br style="" class="">Message-ID: <<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:5271743B0F68453DA9687F7604567C19@DavidPC" href="mailto:5271743B0F68453DA9687F7604567C19@DavidPC">5271743B0F68453DA9687F7604567C19@DavidPC</a>><br style="" class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Additional...<br style="" class="">The small ignition connector should be making good contact with the solenoid<br style="" class="">nut - aren't they on the same terminal? Maybe there's corrosion there? I<br style="" class="">wouldn't expect much difference, except there might be some spark erosion on<br style="" class="">the small connector, so it's not a good idea.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Dave<br style="" class="">UK VW Type 3&4 Club<br style=""
class="">===================<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">On Behalf Of Dave Hall<br style="" class="">Sent: 22 October 2014 01:35<br style="" class="">To: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">Subject: Re: [T3] Starter Solenoid Testing<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">If I've understood you right, I reckon that's just the solenoid moving but<br style="" class="">unable to do anything else as there isn't enough power available from that<br style="" class="">circuit to drive the starter motor round. Not a good idea to do it - you may<br style=""
class="">overload the ignition wire circuit and burn something out. That's certainly<br style="" class="">the noise I heard when trying to start the school minibus with jump leads<br style="" class="">after someone had left the inside lights on for several days - ie totally<br style="" class="">flat battery, and probably pretty poor quality jump leads!<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Dave<br style="" class="">UK VW Type 3&4 Club<br style="" class="">===================<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">-----Original Message-----<br style="" class="">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br style="" class="">On Behalf Of J. Jonik<br style="" class="">Sent: 21 October 2014 22:21<br style="" class="">To: <a style="" class=""
ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">Subject: [T3] Starter Solenoid Testing<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Bentley and Muir books aren't clear on what noises to expect when testing<br style="" class="">starter and solenoid.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">Crossing the battery nut with solenoid nut (key off) gets a nice whirrrr.<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">But...crossing battery with the small, plug-on Ignition Wire connection gets<br style="" class="">what sounds like a hammer factory....loud, very fast, chaotic clackity<br style="" class="">clack. Is that normal? If not, what's at fault?<br style="" class="">And, what SHOULD it sound like?<br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">PS--- This solenoid has no 4th connection...one labeled in Muir book as<br style="" class="">"fuel
injection". It's a 73 FI engine. Shouldn't that FI wire be<br style="" class="">there...and where would be it's other end? It's all been fine for about ten<br style="" class="">years, but....<br style="" class="">_______________________________________________<br style="" class="">VWType3.Org mailing list - <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a> To unsubscribe or change<br style="" class="">subscription options, visit:<br style="" class=""><a style="" class="" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class="">If you need more help, contact: <a style="" class="" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><br style="" class="">---<br style="" class="">This email is free from
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