<p dir="ltr">Here is a short video of what we found as far as the bearings. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Watch "Crank damage" on YouTube<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/WXd46V02LLU">https://youtu.be/WXd46V02LLU</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Nothing catastrophic, but it sure should have been. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Adam</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 12, 2015 1:40 PM, "Craigs List" <<a href="mailto:craigslistcsprings@gmail.com">craigslistcsprings@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">The verdict is in. The main bearings are trashed. #4 spun, somehow feel back into place, but there is a high spot that was catching and causing interference. You couldn't get the crank to spin in case once we split it apart.</p>
<p dir="ltr">#1 (thrust) was installed wrong when rebuilt. When he put the case together he missed the dowel hole and crushed a second dowel hole next to the correct dowel hole. This caused a high spot in the bearing. Causing scarring and a nice gouge in the bearing face.</p>
<p dir="ltr">We also found that #3 and #4 cylinder looked like oil was getting by and the jug of #3 scared from water sitting in the cylinder. So much for new jugs and cylinders as told top me in the sale.</p>
<p dir="ltr">We caught it soon enough that everything is salvageable. I am talking the case and rotating assembly to a local vw shop to see if the case is ok. I think I will buy some new pistons and cylinders just to know they new and ready.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I will put a link to some pictures on the samba after a bit.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Adam</p>
<p dir="ltr">On Sep 12, 2015 9:17 AM, "Keith Park" <<a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" target="_blank">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> im skeptical you'll find anything, but then again, there are so many poor<br>
> quality or defectiveparts on the market today it may be best to check, you<br>
> DO want to catch problems early with a fresh build.<br>
><br>
> keith<br>
><br>
> Topnotch Restorations<br>
> <a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" target="_blank">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm" target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br>
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"<br>
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br>
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"<br>
> 87 Golf "Winterat"<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="http://type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">type3-vwtype3.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" target="_blank">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Craigs List<br>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 7:20 AM<br>
> To: Type 3 List<br>
> Subject: Re: [T3] Clutch Kit Recommendations<br>
><br>
> Keith,<br>
><br>
> I don't have an oil pressure gauge. Any amount of metal in the oil is a bad<br>
> sign. We are going to drop the engine and crack the case today. I think I<br>
> caught it before any major damage. Now it is time to fix it. I'll post<br>
> pictures.<br>
><br>
> Adam<br>
> On Sep 11, 2015 10:05 PM, "Keith Park" <<a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" target="_blank">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > ive seen much worse, whats your oil pressure after an hour on the road at<br>
> > 80F with 10W30? that will tell about your bearing clearances and fit.<br>
> the<br>
> > hot oil pressure at idle is a good measure too.<br>
> ><br>
> > keith<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Topnotch Restorations<br>
> > <a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" target="_blank">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br>
> > <a href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm" target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br>
> > 71 Squareback "Hothe"<br>
> > 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br>
> > 93 RX7 "Redstur"<br>
> > 87 Golf "Winterat"<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: <a href="http://type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">type3-vwtype3.org</a> [mailto:<br>
> > <a href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" target="_blank">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br>
> > On Behalf Of Craigs List<br>
> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:49 PM<br>
> > To: Type 3 List<br>
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Clutch Kit Recommendations<br>
> ><br>
> > If you look close you can see the sheen of ten types of metal shavings. It<br>
> > is not good.<br>
> ><br>
> > Adam<br>
> > On Sep 11, 2015 7:47 PM, "Keith Park" <<a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" target="_blank">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > the only pictures i saw were of a little gunk on the sump plate,<br>
> > > thats not bad, you will always have some after a rebuild and that plate<br>
> > > can get nasty when you have 150K on it and it sits the winter with oil<br>
> > > that has a few miles on it.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > keith<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Topnotch Restorations<br>
> > > <a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" target="_blank">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm" target="_blank">http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm</a><br>
> > > 71 Squareback "Hothe"<br>
> > > 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br>
> > > 93 RX7 "Redstur"<br>
> > > 87 Golf "Winterat"<br>
> > ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: <a href="http://type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">type3-vwtype3.org</a> [mailto:<br>
> > > <a href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" target="_blank">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br>
> > > On Behalf Of Craigs List<br>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:03 PM<br>
> > > To: Type 3 List<br>
> > > Subject: Re: [T3] Clutch Kit Recommendations<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Verdict is in. Not good.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1402299.jpg" target="_blank">http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1402299.jpg</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1402300.jpg" target="_blank">http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1402300.jpg</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Looking for a short block now.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Adam<br>
> > > On Sep 11, 2015 5:19 AM, "Craigs List" <<a href="mailto:craigslistcsprings@gmail.com" target="_blank">craigslistcsprings@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Jim,<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > The vent is good. The plumbing plug is only a 1/4" into the breather.<br>
> > It<br>
> > > > functions as it should.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I will check the other things you mention tomorrow when I pull the<br>
> > > engine.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Adam<br>
> > > > On Sep 10, 2015 10:22 PM, "Jim Adney" <<a href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" target="_blank">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > >> Check to make sure you have a fuctioning crankcase breather. If your<br>
> > > >> plumbing plug in the breather box is in too far, it may have blocked<br>
> > > >> the vent. If you have no vent, pressure buildup in the case will push<br>
> > > >> oil out the back of the engine. Too much end play, or a loose #1 main<br>
> > > >> bearing, can cause this, too.<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Check the vent by trying to blow in the vent hose. You should be able<br>
> > > >> to tell the difference between blowing into a blocked off hose and<br>
> > > >> into a sealed engine (or you can take of a valve cover and you'll be<br>
> > > >> blowing freely THRU the engine.)<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Use a long screwdriver, with the blunt end stuck in one ear, to<br>
> > > >> listen to different parts of the engine. That should give you a<br>
> > > >> better idea of where the noise is coming from.<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Jim<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> On 10 Sep 2015 at 19:44, Craigs List wrote:<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> > Jim,<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > I'm going to follow your advice and pull the engine this weekend<br>
> > > without<br>
> > > >> > the clutch. I fear that the endplay was not set right on rebuild.<br>
> > > Since<br>
> > > >> > purchasing the car, with less than 1100 miles on the rebuild, it<br>
> has<br>
> > > >> slowly<br>
> > > >> > started leaking out of the rear main. Now I am about 5000 miles in<br>
> > and<br>
> > > >> the<br>
> > > >> > crankcase noise is pretty bad. I still have the same power and<br>
> > > >> performance.<br>
> > > >> > Mileage has not suffered. I just think something is wrong.<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > Here is a video of the engine running yesterday.<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > <a href="https://youtu.be/0v4wsBU4ih0" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/0v4wsBU4ih0</a><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > You can barely hear the exhaust over the sound of crank case noise.<br>
> > > The<br>
> > > >> > noise disappears at high RPMs. It is worst at idle.<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > I am going to trailer it to my parents house so that I can tear<br>
> into<br>
> > > it<br>
> > > >> > Saturday morning.<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > Adam<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Jim Adney <<a href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" target="_blank">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > > On 10 Sep 2015 at 8:04, Craigs List wrote:<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > > I should have the clutch sometime next week. I will drop the<br>
> > > engine<br>
> > > >> and<br>
> > > >> > > > switch it out the weekend after.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > When you get the engine out, be sure to check the crankshaft end<br>
> > > >> > > play, to make sure the #1 main bearing has not come loose and is<br>
> > > part<br>
> > > >> > > of the problem. Also, check for wear in the release bearing cross<br>
> > > >> > > shaft. I've probably seen more of those worn out than pressure<br>
> > > >> > > plates.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
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