<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23340">Good tips from all over. Thanks.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23589" dir="ltr">- I did take off, wipe, and blow easily through all the bleeder valves...except the frozen one...top one of double valve caliper. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23663" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">- Have that stuck valve hit well with Liquid Wrench. Will use 7 mm socket instead of regular combo wrench. Long ago, I broke off a couple of valves...but actually managed to use extractor to get them out. Hole for extractor tool is conveniently ready-made.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23776" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_24131" dir="ltr">- A sort of nearby VW etc mechanic, hearing the problem, thought first to advise "get new flex lines". I already have new front flex lines (one installed) and rear ones are available to order for about $19 each. Practiced removing rear lines from one of my parts cars. Not An Easy Job. Haven't finished yet. Don't know if it's a good idea to use old 1972 rear flex lines on my '71. Is the rubber likely to be untrustworthy even if they turn out to be open inside?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_24186" dir="ltr">- Thanks for warning about playing with the pedal push-rod.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_24230" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_24244" dir="ltr">- And...those little, formed, thin metal plates that fit in calipers between the metal pad backing and the piston....essential? Relevant to this bleeding deal? <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_24291" dir="ltr">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23563" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23967" dir="ltr">From: "William J" <<a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23449" href="mailto:catnine09@dslextreme.com">catnine09@dslextreme.com</a>><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23450">To: <<a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23451" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23452">Subject: Re: [T3] Brake Bleeding Update<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23453">Message-ID: <<a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23454" href="mailto:76EAF79F2F544C85861BB7791FFE6DBF@acere355056e8b">76EAF79F2F544C85861BB7791FFE6DBF@acere355056e8b</a>><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23455">Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23456"> reply-type=original<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23457"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23458"> I still say you need to remove all the bleeder screws and check the 2 small <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23459">holes on the inner end of the bleeder screws and also the one the fluid <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23460">bleeds out of . I you don't you are wasting your time.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23461">----- Original Message ----- <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23462">From: "J. Jonik" <<a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23463" href="mailto:j_jonik@yahoo.com">j_jonik@yahoo.com</a>><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23464">To: <<a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23465" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a>><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23466">Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:55 AM<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23467">Subject: [T3] Brake Bleeding Update<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23468"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23469"><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23470">> 71 Squareback:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23471">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23472">> Brake pedal still can't be adjusted correctly, and still needs to be <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23473">> pumped a couple of times to work OK.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23474">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23475">> The situation:<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23476">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23477">> - Made sure brake pads, front and rear, were good thickness.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23478">> - Freed up and greased one of the rear adjustment gear things.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23479">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23480">> - No leaks anywhere.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23481">> - Reservoir filled to proper level. Cap loosened, and hand-brake off, when <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23482">> bleeding.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23483">> - Top valve in a front double-valve caliper is frozen in place.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23484">> - Wheels, with car raised, all cannot be turned when brake pedal is pushed <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23485">> down with a stick pushing against the driver's seat.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23486">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23487">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23488">> Still, only one of the front valves, when opened, produces a good squirt <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23489">> and lets pedal go to the floor during bleeding. The other front one (with <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23490">> the frozen 2nd valve) does a little squirt. None produce apparent <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23491">> air...just a dribbling flow of fluid.<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23492">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23493">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23494">> (Doesn't that fluid, and the fact that brakes hold the wheels solidly, <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23495">> show that hoses aren't blocked?)<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23496">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23497">> I'd hate to just try a new Master Cylinder, just in case that's the <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23498">> problem. Found new master cylinders on-line for about $35. Worth a try?<br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23499">><br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23500">> Long shot: What about re-adjusting...lengthening...the push-rod from <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23501">> pedal to cylinder? How bad must car rust be to make that go out of <br id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461177355889_23502">> adjustment?</div></div></body></html>