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<DIV>Yup, same here. Too many idiots that either forgot how to drive in the
snow, or didn't learn how to drive in the snow, and think they know how to. Add
in all those urban assault vehicles with 4 wheel drive that are going 20+ mph
faster than conditions would allow, and you're taking your life into your own
hands out there. While a rear engined VW would be a great winter car, there's no
way I'd drive one in the winter around here. And with they way they salt around
here, you really need a disposable winter instead of a type 3 for winter
use.</DIV>
<DIV>Bob </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 4/20/2016 9:59:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
topnotch@nycap.rr.com writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>biggest
problem here is that nobody will spend the money on snowtires<BR>anymore,
despite the fact that technology has moved the snowtire to the <BR>point of
leaving black marks in the snow they are so good. The low
profile<BR>tires are very expensive to make in snows, and not nearly as good,
so folks<BR>do without and creep along at 5mph when it snows and tie up
traffic so they<BR>push for the salt so the roads are clear.<BR><BR>My Father
bought the Opel new in 75, drove it for 20 years and I used it as<BR>a winter
car for 5 more, before restoring it. an EXCELLENT Zebart job
and<BR>careful oiling preserved it pretty well, but Opel exhaust parts and
brakes<BR>were getting too hard to find and it was just impractical to keep it
going<BR>in the winter, and of course... there are still many things that you
cant<BR>protect from the salt.<BR><BR>Keith<BR><BR><BR>Topnotch
Restorations<BR>topnotch@nycap.rr.com<BR>http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm<BR>71
Squareback "Hothe"<BR>65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<BR>93 RX7
"Redstur"<BR>87 Golf "Winterat"<BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: type3-vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org]<BR>On Behalf Of Brion
Sabbatino<BR>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:30 PM<BR>To: type3<BR>Subject:
Re: [T3] WOW! the RUST!<BR><BR>Nice that it is in a collection. Have no seen
an opel in years. Not even in<BR>the west. I certainly do not miss the snow
and salt if the East. The salting<BR>is just idiotic. Let them plow and let
drivers mount snow tires every year.<BR>Simple.<BR><BR>-------- Original
message --------<BR>From: Keith Park <topnotch@nycap.rr.com><BR>Date:
4/20/2016 7:19 PM (GMT-07:00)<BR>To: type3@vwtype3.org<BR>Subject:
Re: [T3] WOW! the RUST!<BR><BR>My winter car is a winter car for the
winter car... the old winter car was<BR>the Opel, but since those are rarer
than T3's I finally restored it and kept<BR>it out of the salt, its in an Opel
collection in Toronto now after I sold<BR>it.<BR><BR>Keith<BR><BR><BR>Topnotch
Restorations<BR>topnotch@nycap.rr.com<BR>http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm<BR>71
Squareback "Hothe"<BR>65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<BR>93 RX7
"Redstur"<BR>87 Golf "Winterat"<BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: type3-vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org]<BR>On Behalf Of
Bobsnotch@aol.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:33 PM<BR>To:
type3@vwtype3.org<BR>Subject: Re: [T3] WOW! the RUST!<BR><BR>In a message
dated 4/20/2016 8:18:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,<BR>topnotch@nycap.rr.com
writes:<BR><BR>I crawled under Winterat to replace the rear muffler and
was shocked at<BR>what<BR>I found! This is the heart of the rust
belt,<BR><BR>So its expected to see things rusting pretty fast under
there but this<BR>year,<BR>anything that didn't have oil on it was vastly
more<BR><BR>Rusty that any previous year and this past winter was a
pretty short one!<BR>Brakes, exhaust, rims. all rusting up faster
than ever before!<BR><BR>I know they have been using magnesium chloride
on the state roads for a<BR>while, and even Beet juice, YES Beet
juice! But this year they started<BR><BR>Brining, with special
brining trucks, on all the interstates and some of<BR>the<BR>county
roads.. But what is IN that brine? What happens when you MIX
the<BR>Magnesium with Salt? Do we have any chemists here? My
poor little Golf!<BR>Whatever they are doing its causing the rust to
speed way up..<BR><BR>NASTY NASTY stuff in those brine trucks, but what
is it?<BR><BR><BR><BR>I think Ill keep the Golf on the road thru a
couple more good rains, don't<BR>want to be driving Hothe thru any
puddles for a while yet till I know its<BR>all washed off. I
haven't seen them washing down the bridges yet or any of<BR>the
Zambonies run thru the neighborhood..<BR>I hear you Keith. I don't know
what they're using either, but I've got get<BR>in and do some repair
work on my Geo Prizm, as the plastic bumper cover is<BR>trying to fall
off. I've already had to replace a section of rear frame<BR>rail on it,
just to hold the muffler up and in place. It's beginning to<BR>look<BR>like
I need a winter car, for the winter car with the way it's
rusting<BR>out.<BR>The things we do to save our beloved Type 3s.<BR><BR>Bob 65
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