<div>So ..... </div><div>What are the "good part numbers" for the fuel injectors? </div><div>Are they different for 1500 or 1600 engines? </div><div>Unique injectors for different years?</div><div><br></div><div>I have an "old" ... and I mean really old ... Mercedes repair garage very near me. Would the Mercedes and Type 3 engines be the same?</div><div><br></div><div>If they would have the appropriate, NEW injectors, for our engines, it might be useful to have 4 of them on hand. ???</div><div><br></div><div>"Frito" '69 Square, MT, 1600</div><div><br><br>On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, <<a href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-request@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-request@lists.vwtype3.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send <a href="http://type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">type3-vwtype3.org</a> mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: I've got another question , same one I asked a while<br>
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2. Hothe is back on all 4 (Keith Park)<br>
3. Re: Hothe is back on all 4 (Mike Fisher)<br>
4. Hothe is back on all 4 (David)<br>
5. Re: Hothe is back on all 4 (Jim Adney)<br>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:40:50 -0700<br>
From: William Jahn <<a href="mailto:willjahn975@gmail.com">willjahn975@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [T3] I've got another question , same one I asked a while<br>
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Anyone? I just need suggestions.<br>
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William<br>
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 2:03 PM, William Jahn <<a href="mailto:willjahn975@gmail.com">willjahn975@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I noticed when I was fixing the cold start valve hose in the parking lot<br>
> that I have the temp sensor in the IAD un plugged . I did this because if<br>
> it was plugged in the engine struggled between 1000 RPM and 2200 RPM if it<br>
> was in park. By struggle I mean the rpm was not a smooth climb it would<br>
> sort of hang and drop between the rpm range above. It also had a miss fire<br>
> at idle , not a back fire but an erratic miss .<br>
><br>
> When I drove it I didn't feel any miss yet heard slight popping out the<br>
> exhaust when I let off the gas.<br>
><br>
> I know the right Empi header to the right heat exchanger leaks I can hear<br>
> and feel this and that may be the popping I hear . ON that miss i can't<br>
> imagine that is related to the exhaust leak and I saw this because it's<br>
> been leaking there for 20 years and didn't have that erratic miss or<br>
> struggle between those RPM ranges .<br>
><br>
> I know it has the proper ECU and throttle switch and pressure sensor<br>
> since Jim provided that info. I also checked every engine ground and redid<br>
> all and that seemed to help for a while then it was right back doing this.<br>
> I also know all a vacuum leak really does is allow more air and as far as I<br>
> know does not make for a richer mixture unless the leak is at the intake<br>
> gaskets and injector seals . I do know all for runner short hoses are oily<br>
> , I have new ones yet not the intake gaskets .<br>
><br>
> I have read one can replace the paper on the intake spacer . I thought of<br>
> pushing back the old oily short hoses and removing the IAD without removing<br>
> the runners . It's possible yet does not look easy .<br>
><br>
> Basically what I'm asking is should I repair the exhaust leak first then<br>
> see and it this doesn't help go for the short hoses and replace all the<br>
> vacuum lines off the IAD . If I could get two FI intake spacer/gaskets I<br>
> would go that route . I don't think the old ones are cracked and may be<br>
> able to just make new paper gaskets.<br>
><br>
> William<br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:46:50 -0400<br>
From: "Keith Park" <<a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>><br>
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I cranked for oil pressure, got it and nothing leaking<br>
<br>
plugged the brain in and pumped up some fuel pressure and CRAP!<br>
2 of the injectors are leaking... the Green ones that are so hard to get.<br>
<br>
I think I have ONE spare that is good, I have 2 others in Kerosene but if I<br>
recall right<br>
<br>
they leaked when i last used them 8 years ago.<br>
<br>
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This could be a show stopper till I find more green...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Topnotch Restorations<br>
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<a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.topnotchresto.com" target="_blank">http://www.topnotchresto.com</a><br>
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71 Squareback "Hothe"<br>
65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br>
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93 RX7 "Redstur"<br>
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95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"<br>
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"hanging out at the tail end of the bell<br>
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curve, and loving every minute of it!"<br>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:02:45 -0700<br>
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Tram (Georg) knows where to buy all the German VW-Mercedes parts.<br>
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:46 PM Keith Park <<a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I cranked for oil pressure, got it and nothing leaking<br>
><br>
> plugged the brain in and pumped up some fuel pressure and CRAP!<br>
> 2 of the injectors are leaking... the Green ones that are so hard to get.<br>
><br>
> I think I have ONE spare that is good, I have 2 others in Kerosene but if I<br>
> recall right<br>
><br>
> they leaked when i last used them 8 years ago.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> This could be a show stopper till I find more green...<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Topnotch Restorations<br>
><br>
> <a href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.topnotchresto.com" target="_blank">http://www.topnotchresto.com</a><br>
><br>
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"<br>
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br>
><br>
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"<br>
><br>
> 95 Chrysler Cirrus Lxi "Cirfogsalot"<br>
><br>
> "hanging out at the tail end of the bell<br>
><br>
> curve, and loving every minute of it!"<br>
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:58:33 -0400<br>
From: "David" <<a href="mailto:rdavid@rochester.rr.com">rdavid@rochester.rr.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [T3] Hothe is back on all 4<br>
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Now that Hothe is temporarily out of service - I bet you are now driving<br>
your RX7 "Redstur" back and forth to work these days.<br>
<br>
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<br>
You're going to get spoiled having A/C driving Redstur. Better get Hothe<br>
back on the road soon!<br>
<br>
Dave Pallo<br>
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'72 Square ~ Elwood<br>
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Fairport, New York<br>
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:24:33 -0500<br>
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On 17 Jul 2018 at 21:46, Keith Park wrote:<br>
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> I cranked for oil pressure, got it and nothing leaking plugged the<br>
> brain in and pumped up some fuel pressure and CRAP! 2 of the injectors<br>
> are leaking... the Green ones that are so hard to get. I think I have<br>
> ONE spare that is good, I have 2 others in Kerosene but if I recall<br>
> right they leaked when i last used them 8 years ago. <br>
<br>
Sometimes they will recover, the O-rings will absorbe gas and swell back up, <br>
if you let them soak in their internal gas for a week or so. This has worked <br>
for me at times. Go to the car once a day and turn the key ON for a week to <br>
keep gas in there and see if the leaks stop. <br>
<br>
Of course if it's the hoses, just replace the hoses.<br>
<br>
The moral is that injectors will dry out in an unused engine just the same as <br>
when stored dry in your garage or basement. Better to take them out and <br>
store them in kerosene if you're not going to drive that engine again soon.<br>
<br>
Yeah, it can be a pain.<br>
<br>
BTW, I think there's more than 1 Bosch part number that are green. I know <br>
no one bothers with this, but go by part number, not plastic color. The Bosch <br>
part number is molded into the side of the plastic. <br>
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