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After closer searching. Larry is correct in that ISP West has the Filler/fender grommet.
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So with Jim's advice I am going to order the parts and make the repair.<br>
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Fuel weeping is evident at the metal fuel filler neck to rubber hose connection. The thin rubber section under is split and not installed correctly.</div>
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> type3-vwtype3.org <type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org> on behalf of Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 18, 2019 10:28:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> type3@vwtype3.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [T3] Fuel filler.</font>
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<div class="PlainText">On 17 Mar 2019 at 23:19, Brion Sabbatino wrote:<br>
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> The Squareback has smelled of gas everytime it is fueled up.<br>
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Sounds like an overflow hose problem, but I see that you're about to fix that, <br>
too. <br>
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> The issue is with the fuel filler hose. It appears that there is a<br>
> short section of hose attached at the fuel tank with a longer hose<br>
> slipped over it. When it gets to the metal fuel filler pipe the short<br>
> section is not present. Only some thin rubber under the longer rubber<br>
> hose which is split. This is where the issue seems to be. <br>
> <br>
> From what I can find, there should be a short section of hose at both<br>
> ends. <br>
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There should be what looks like a very wide, thin, black rubber band over <br>
the metal ends of the filler pipe and the tank inlet nipple. These often get <br>
mis-installed if the tank is ever removed. The actual connection hose <br>
between the two is quite durable in my experience and never needs to be <br>
replaced.<br>
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> I would like to replace all of these rubber hoses. ISP West seems to<br>
> have them. I will order them if this is correct. <br>
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The "rubber bands" can be bought thru your VW dealer. They are still <br>
available because they were also used on Beetles. Unless your hose has <br>
been damaged, I would not replace it, as any new one is probably of lesser <br>
quality. I have perfectly good OG used ones if you really need one.<br>
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> At the same time Jim's overflow kit will be installed. The<br>
> installation was on the to do list for today. <br>
> <br>
> The item I cannot locate is the fuel filler trim grommet attached<br>
> through the fender. <br>
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That boot is always damaged, and hard to find. I believe Type 3 Detectives <br>
in England has a repop that's supposed to be good. I'm surprised that ISP <br>
doesn't have it, as it's so often needed. OTOH, it's of minimal importance.<br>
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> The condition of it is bad enough that it will destruct when removed.<br>
> It is dry and cracked. The desert is not kind to rubber or plastic. <br>
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It's not necessary to remove the filler pipe to replace the rubber bands. <br>
Remove the old parts, then glue the new rubber bands in place on the metal <br>
ends, using a gasket material that is okay with gasoline. Note that most <br>
silicone gasket materials are not. Gasket materials that will completely <br>
dissolve in gas are fine; you just don't want squeezed out bits of gasket goo <br>
to end up floating in the gas. Rubber cement works.<br>
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Let the glue dry overnight, then oil the outsides of the bands and the inside <br>
of the hose ends, and fold the tube enough that you can carefully slip it onto <br>
the ends. You have to do this carefully to keep from moving the rubber <br>
bands. This is hard, but not as hard as removing the filler pipe.<br>
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> I do have one other item I have been searching for. It is the rear<br>
> passenger side pop out window lock knob. The driver side has one. It<br>
> is chrome and tightens to hold the window open. <br>
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I probably have one.<br>
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> The car is a 1969 Squareback. <br>
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Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org<br>
Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br>
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