<div dir="ltr"><div>I removed the left seat door side cover. Then I just happened to have a 10mm hex wrench and removed the left back to seat base pivot pin and put the cable on the other side just mirror of the right side. <br></div><div><br></div><div> It's an odd setup. On the seat back side knob lever there are 2 cables hooked to the lever, the lever has 2 holes 1 for each cable and of cause a pivot for the lever way inside opposite the knob on this lever and a spring on top , they look just like the ends of throttle and heater cables and are all stranded close to the same OD as the throttle cable. One cable is inside the out board seat back pivot arm which is a rectangle metal box type frame and is looped around a pin with and a screw and E clip , the end of the cable has a crimped on flat metal , you can see it only if you lift the lever full up . I can't really describe it because it's difficult to see and I didn't see what actually locks the seat from tipping forward it must be in the seat base. The other cable exits a opening in the same seat back pivot frame above the opening where the other cable connection above can be seen. <br></div><div><br></div><div> This cable I can see connects to the same cable that works the seat back recliner which is the round black knob on the lower seat frame which has 7 notches or positions the round arm drops into, it's a plate with 3 pivots. <br></div><div><br></div><div> What it comes down to when working the seat the second cable I can see (barely) it's only function is, once the seat back either side is tilted all the way forward
the side knob then drops all the way down
and the back locks in the full forward position just as it does in the full back position. I imagine all it is, is a safety feature so the seat back on a steep down hill or using the seat back to hold onto does not come back when some one is sitting in the back seat trying to exit the car. <br></div><div><br></div><div> It works now, didn't take much other than some removing of crud on the lever and cable ends and a bit of lube on the same areas and other pivots.</div><div><br></div><div> Once the seat rail plastic slides arrive 2 for each side of the rear and 1 for each center rail top I will remove the seats the side covers and do a better cleaning and lubing. <br></div><div><br></div><div>William<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 1:55 PM Jim Adney <<a href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 31 Dec 2019 at 8:07, William Jahn wrote:<br>
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> There is a knob door side of the seat back purpose is to slid up allowing<br>
> the seat back to tilt forward . The right works , the left does not move<br>
> up enough and since I've had this car I need to use this knob and the back<br>
> tilt knob in combination in order to simply to tilt the seat back forward<br>
> .<br>
> I looked at the right and see a cable with no tube drop down on the<br>
> outside of the backs outer black frame pivot arm that has a pivot bolt to<br>
> seat back to the seat base . It works yet I don't think I should see the<br>
> cable. One the left seat same deal except the cable is looped around the<br>
> back of the same pivot bolt on the right the cable is not looped . The way<br>
> it's looped around the back of the pivot bolt boss won't allow the cable<br>
> release knob to move fully up on the side of the seat back.<br>
<br>
It's been too many years for me to remember exactly how that release cable <br>
works, but it seems like you've answered your own question: Make the L <br>
seat a mirror image of the R and it will work the same. Taking the plastic <br>
pieces off the outside of both seats is a good way to start. Those late seats <br>
are an awful design, overcomplicated and weak. They don't hold up nearly <br>
as well as any of the earlier seats. The only good thing about them is that <br>
they share a lot of parts with Beetle seats of the same era, so parts that <br>
break are often still available.<br>
<br>
CAUTION: I believe you'll have to pull off a knob that comes out thru those <br>
plastic side plates. That knob is held on its shaft by teeth on the shaft, so if <br>
you pull the knob with your fingers against the shaft as the knob slides off, <br>
those teeth will take serious bites out of your fingers. Don't let your fingers <br>
touch the shaft, or loop some heavy string behind the knob and let the teeth <br>
destroy that instead of your fingers.<br>
<br>
What I can recall is that there's a short cable housing with an anchor tab in <br>
the middle. The cable itself has a spring in the middle. I bought a new one <br>
when I was rebuilding some of those seats, about 25 years ago. I had to take <br>
apart 4 seats to get enough good parts to make 2 good ones, and, in the <br>
end, I didn't need the cable that I had bought. It's still in the basement.<br>
<br>
I may also have a good used cable, I'd have to check the box of seat parts <br>
that's in storage. But I'm pretty sure I can find that NOS cable assembly.<br>
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Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br>
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