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1. New to me 1965 notcback, have questions (Eric Nielsen)<br>
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3. Re: New to me 1965 notcback, have questions (Jim Adney)<br>
4. Re: New to me 1965 notcback, have questions (Eric Nielsen)<br>
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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:22:23 +0000<br>
From: Eric Nielsen <<a href="mailto:68bluefasty@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">68bluefasty@outlook.com</a>><br>
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I got a new project! a 1965 Notchback. This is the oldest car that i own, and i will have a lot of questions.<br>
My Other type 3 is my neglected 68 fasty that i took to the 1st invasion, so i have been a long time lurker here.<br>
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Here it is on a trailer coming to its new home : <a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/4FpFeb6" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/gallery/4FpFeb6</a> It has been sitting , last registered in 1989. My first order of business is going to be redoing the brakes, then engine & suspension.<br>
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What rubber brake lines should i order? I was looking at ispwest but i couldn't find the exact ones i need.<br>
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Are the rear ones the same through out the years 64-68 (swing-axle) ? What about the fronts ?<br>
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Can I or should I upgrade to a dual circuit Master cylinder ? In the future i'm going to be putting wide 5 disks up front.<br>
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Where can i find the backspacing info for wheels? I want to get some custom widened stealies but the few people who make them , make them for T1s.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Eric <a href="mailto:68bluefasty@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">68bluefasty@outlook.com</a><br>
68 Fasty on jackstands<br>
65 Notch on 30 yr old rubber tires<br>
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Nice looking car, and it appears mostly complete. Did you buy this from Joel? <br>
As for brake hoses, the rear are the same for swing axle cars. It's the IRS cars that use 2 different hoses. <br>
Yes, upgrade to a dual circuit master cylinder, especially if you plan on doing a disc conversion in the future.All stock type 3 rims from 61-73 are +46 offset.I hope this helps.Bob 65 Notch S w/factory sunroof<br>
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Subject: [T3] New to me 1965 notcback, have questions<br>
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I got a new project! a 1965 Notchback. This is the oldest car that i own, and i will have a lot of questions.<br>
My Other type 3 is my neglected 68 fasty that i took to the 1st invasion, so i have been a long time lurker here.<br>
<br>
Here it is on a trailer coming to its new home :? <a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/4FpFeb6" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/gallery/4FpFeb6</a> It has been sitting , last registered in 1989.? My first order of business is going to be redoing the brakes, then engine & suspension.<br>
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What rubber brake lines should i order?? I was looking at ispwest but i couldn't find the exact ones i need.<br>
<br>
Are the rear ones the same through out the years 64-68 (swing-axle) ? What about the fronts ?<br>
<br>
Can I or should I upgrade to a dual circuit Master cylinder ? In the future i'm going to be putting wide 5 disks up front.<br>
<br>
Where can i find the backspacing info for wheels? I want to get some custom widened stealies but the few people who make them , make them for T1s.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Eric <a href="mailto:68bluefasty@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">68bluefasty@outlook.com</a><br>
68 Fasty on jackstands<br>
65 Notch on 30 yr old rubber tires<br>
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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:44:57 -0600<br>
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On 20 Feb 2020 at 18:22, Eric Nielsen wrote:<br>
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> What rubber brake lines should i order? I was looking at ispwest but i<br>
> couldn't find the exact ones i need.<br>
> <br>
> Are the rear ones the same through out the years 64-68 (swing-axle) ? What<br>
> about the fronts ?<br>
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All Type 3 swing axle rear hoses are the same.<br>
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All Type 3 drum brake front hoses are the same. I'm not a fan of trying to <br>
convert to disk fronts, for several reasons. It's expensive, it's complicated, <br>
you end up with completely non-standard parts, and you don't get much out <br>
of it other than bragging rights. The OE early front drum brakes, with 2 <br>
leading shoes per wheel, give excellent braking performance. Of course they <br>
probably don't work well now, but fixing what you have will be much more <br>
straightforward than trying to convert.<br>
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Switching to a dual master is a good idea, but it will be more work than you <br>
expect. You should probably also replace the long center brake line, <br>
because by the time you twist it up to connect to the tandem MC, it will <br>
probably break where it's heavily rusted, under the gas pedal.<br>
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You will also run into problems with the hoses from the brake fluid reservoir <br>
to the MC, as your early car has 1 small (5 mm?) hose, while the late MC <br>
expects 2 larger, 7 mm hoses. The late MC also needs a special hard line to <br>
the LF wheel.<br>
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I think I have most of the stock style parts you might need.<br>
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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:03:53 +0000<br>
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I did not buy from Joel, and I was surprised I beat him to it. But i will be getting some stuff from him in the future.<br>
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Subject: Re: [T3] New to me 1965 notcback, have questions<br>
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Nice looking car, and it appears mostly complete. Did you buy this from Joel?<br>
As for brake hoses, the rear are the same for swing axle cars. It's the IRS cars that use 2 different hoses.<br>
Yes, upgrade to a dual circuit master cylinder, especially if you plan on doing a disc conversion in the future.All stock type 3 rims from 61-73 are +46 offset.I hope this helps.Bob 65 Notch S w/factory sunroof<br>
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Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2020 1:22 pm<br>
Subject: [T3] New to me 1965 notcback, have questions<br>
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I got a new project! a 1965 Notchback. This is the oldest car that i own, and i will have a lot of questions.<br>
My Other type 3 is my neglected 68 fasty that i took to the 1st invasion, so i have been a long time lurker here.<br>
<br>
Here it is on a trailer coming to its new home : <a href="https://imgur.com/gallery/4FpFeb6" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/gallery/4FpFeb6</a> It has been sitting , last registered in 1989. My first order of business is going to be redoing the brakes, then engine & suspension.<br>
<br>
<br>
What rubber brake lines should i order? I was looking at ispwest but i couldn't find the exact ones i need.<br>
<br>
Are the rear ones the same through out the years 64-68 (swing-axle) ? What about the fronts ?<br>
<br>
Can I or should I upgrade to a dual circuit Master cylinder ? In the future i'm going to be putting wide 5 disks up front.<br>
<br>
Where can i find the backspacing info for wheels? I want to get some custom widened stealies but the few people who make them , make them for T1s.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Eric <a href="mailto:68bluefasty@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">68bluefasty@outlook.com</a><br>
68 Fasty on jackstands<br>
65 Notch on 30 yr old rubber tires<br>
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