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<div>O<font size="2">h, I know exactly where you're coming from. We had about a week of spring, <br>
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<div><font size="2">then it turned cold for a few days, then summer hit. Mom was complaining about <br>
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<div><font size="2">having to keep using the heat, when it's normally off by the 1st of May. Rob's using <br>
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<div><font size="2">an old T-4 alt that I had on my 2.0L that got me started into t-4's. But thru him, and <br>
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<div><font size="2">with talking to Ray, I've learned quite a bit over the years. His is currently running <br>
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<div><font size="2">carbs, so there's no power draw from the FI (to change the tune). But I'm sure his IS <br>
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<div><font size="2">putting out 14,5 volts or more, as we plugged a a gauge into the cig lighter (power port) <br>
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<div><font size="2">and it was above 14.5 last time we checked. Granted, that's dash voltage, but...</font></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Keith Park <topnotch@nycap.rr.com><br>
To: type3@vwtype3.org<br>
Sent: Tue, Jun 2, 2020 8:28 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [T3] Keith's T4 Charging Dilemma<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Well I thought it was the VR too, tried an NOS spare, same thing, then I got<br clear="none">the electronic one as I was so happy with that in the T3 engine, same issue.<br clear="none">The alternator was a new Bosch, has about 10K on it now, always been this<br clear="none">way. I have another, if it werent so much work Id swap it out but there are<br clear="none">so many things higher up on the priority list this spring, well, because we<br clear="none">didnt HAVE a spring, I got NOTHING done till the past couple weeks... I<br clear="none">might get caught up around the end of June or early July We'll see... its<br clear="none">still raining alot and quite cold.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Keith<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Keith, if I didn't know any better I'd say you you either have a bad VR, or<br clear="none"><br clear="none">the alt is on it's way out (time for rebuilding). Like Jim already<br clear="none">mentioned, <br clear="none">the system should be putting out at least 14.5 volts at start up, and with <br clear="none">an alt it should be holding pretty close to that even after warm up. I guess<br clear="none"><br clear="none">that's why some guys convert their t-4 engines to running the older GM <br clear="none">alternators (back in the day it was common), since everything is built<br clear="none">inside <br clear="none">them (including the VR), but also give more amps. I think I'd look at the <br clear="none">brushes, the diodes, and maybe even check out the rectifier bridge inside <br clear="none">your old one. It's possible that the commutator surfaces are dirty as<br clear="none">well.There's got to be a reason for the low output, and if the alt checks<br clear="none">out, that <br clear="none">only leaves the VR. It doesn't help that your Square is set up to use a lot<br clear="none">of <br clear="none">power to run your accessories.I hope this helps.Bob 65 Notch S w/Sunroof<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: Keith Park <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a>><br clear="none">To: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br clear="none">Sent: Mon, Jun 1, 2020 10:29 pm<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [T3] Keith's T4 Charging Dilemma<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Well, another observation.<br clear="none">Drove it home from camp on Sunday, but before dark this time.<br clear="none">Startup it kept 14v even at idle, wandered down to 13.9 at times but held<br clear="none">right around 14V for a half hour or so on the secondary roads till I got on<br clear="none">the interstate, then after 8 minutes it went down to 13.6 where it stayed<br clear="none">for the rest of the hour home. No headlight use.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hmmmm....<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Keith<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Topnotch Restorations<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com" href="mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.topnotchresto.com/" target="_blank">http://www.topnotchresto.com</a><br clear="none">71 Squareback "Hothe"<br clear="none">65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"<br clear="none">93 RX7 "Redstur"<br clear="none">13 Subaru Outback "Blendin"<br clear="none"> <br clear="none">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: type3-vwtype3.org [mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</a>]<br clear="none">On Behalf Of Jim Adney<br clear="none">Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 10:44 AM<br clear="none">To: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br clear="none">Subject: [T3] Keith's T4 Charging Dilemma<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I've relabeled this thread, since this topic seems to have hijacked the<br clear="none">original <br clear="none">thread.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Keith,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">VWType3.Org mailing list - <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br clear="none">To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br clear="none">If you need more help, contact: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br clear="none">-------------- next part --------------<br clear="none">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none">URL:<br clear="none"><<a shape="rect" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20200602/6" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/pipermail/type3-vwtype3.org/attachments/20200602/6</a><br clear="none">4aa29e8/attachment.html><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">VWType3.Org mailing list - <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br clear="none">To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br clear="none">If you need more help, contact: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a>
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