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I find the easiest way to make the Front to Rear Brake Pipe is in 2 halves with a Connector somewhere inside the car next to the Central Tunnel. It is much easier to feed and bend the 2 separate sections of Pipe where they need to go at both ends of the car. Find the final lengths needed on the straight, where they need to meet in the middle, then cut them to length and make the Flares “ in situ “.<div><br></div><div>I do not know what Tools you have to do this “ in situ “ but I bought a Sykes Picavant Hydraulic Flaring Tool when I made all new Brake Lines for my 1972 Squareback, as part of the “ Body Off “ Resto. some years ago. This Sykes Picavant is a Hand Held Flaring Tool intended for that exact purpose of making Brake Pipe Flares on the Car, rather than on the Bench. It makes far better Flares than any basic mechanical Flaring Tool as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Steve <br><div><div><br><br><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a><br><br><p class="yahoo-quoted-begin" style="font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Tuesday, September 29, 2020, 9:13 pm, type3-vwtype3.org-request@lists.vwtype3.org wrote:</p><blockquote class="iosymail"><div dir="ltr">Send type3-vwtype3.org mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org@lists.vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-request@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-request@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-request@lists.vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-owner@lists.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-owner@lists.vwtype3.org">type3-vwtype3.org-owner@lists.vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of type3-vwtype3.org digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">***********************************<br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying to the digest, please remember to trim your message. 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Re: New brake line help (Jim Adney)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: New brake line help (Jim Adney)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 17:01:06 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Jim Adney" <<a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [T3] New brake line help<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:5F725D22.2649.63121A4D@jadney.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:5F725D22.2649.63121A4D@jadney.vwtype3.org">5F725D22.2649.63121A4D@jadney.vwtype3.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 27 Sep 2020 at 18:22, Max Welton wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > He probably lost it because it was toast. Perhaps ISP got you one that's<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > right, but the ones commonly available for Beetles are a couple inches too<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > short for us. I make them myself, from the newish CuNi allow that won't rust,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > and in the right length for Type 3s.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Alex sent me one labelled 211 611 741 K. Looks about the right length<br></div><div dir="ltr">> given the bends I'll need to hit the port on the MC. I'll try it.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">That would be a Bus line, so it's likely to be a bit long. Best to tuck the extra <br></div><div dir="ltr">under the back seat.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> The opening forward of the pedal cluster was covered / closed when the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> pan was done. What would that have looked like?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2093584.jpg" target="_blank">https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2093584.jpg</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm not sure. I think the lower right corner of that vertical panel was simply <br></div><div dir="ltr">cut at an angle, leaving a triangular hole between it, the tunnel, and the <br></div><div dir="ltr">floor. It's not big, just large enough to clear the line nut.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Someone else may remember this better.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > VW used different styles of grommets every few years. I have some of them,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > but you'd have to tell me what you need. I can't tell for you. Depends on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > size of the hole you're going thru.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> The hole up front is about 15mm and in the rear I see a 20mm on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> inside and another 15mm on the outside. Sound like something you have<br></div><div dir="ltr">> grommets for? That would be handy.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2093582.jpg" target="_blank">https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2093582.jpg</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'll check to see what I have. Some are new, some used. In that photo you <br></div><div dir="ltr">can see one of the tabs that are used to hold the line down against the floor. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Do you need the Tee that mounts to the rear end of that line?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr">*******************************<br></div><div dir="ltr">Jim Adney, <a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br></div><div dir="ltr">*******************************<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:09:14 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Jim Adney" <<a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [T3] New brake line help<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:5F734E1A.23534.66BF630D@jadney.vwtype3.org" href="mailto:5F734E1A.23534.66BF630D@jadney.vwtype3.org">5F734E1A.23534.66BF630D@jadney.vwtype3.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 28 Sep 2020 at 16:03, Max Welton wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I should be able to source new grommets locally that are new. They're just<br></div><div dir="ltr">> grommets.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can certainly find something from the electronics world that will keep the <br></div><div dir="ltr">line from chafing, but the OE parts also seal around the tube, so they also <br></div><div dir="ltr">keep water out. Maybe use some standard electronic grommets plus some <br></div><div dir="ltr">caulk to seal around the tube.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To be fair, by the time you cut OE grommets to get them over the line nuts, <br></div><div dir="ltr">you'll want to seal them with something anyway.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr">*******************************<br></div><div dir="ltr">Jim Adney, <a ymailto="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org">jadney@vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br></div><div dir="ltr">*******************************<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">VWType3.Org mailing list - <a ymailto="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:type3@vwtype3.org">type3@vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">To unsubscribe or change subscription options, visit:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org" target="_blank">http://lists.vwtype3.org/listinfo.cgi/type3-vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">If you need more help, contact: <a ymailto="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org" href="mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org">gregm@vwtype3.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 120, Issue 19<br></div><div dir="ltr">**************************************************<br></div><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div>
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