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 1. Re: type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 150, Issue 10 (Todd Heimer)<br>
 2. Re: Tires for Type 3s? (Keith Park)<br>
 3. Re: Rust & Mouse Proofing (Keith Park)<br>
 4. Re: Tires for Type 3s? (Keith Park)<br>
 5. Re: Tires for Type 3s? (Keith Park)<br>
 6. Re: Tires for Type 3s? (Jim Adney)<br>
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 20:39:58 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Todd Heimer <<span class="wt_Email">todd_heimer@yahoo.com</span><span></span>><br>
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 Hi,I installed the repros of the Michelin XZX on my '68 Squareback.? ?I really liked the look, as it appeared very period correct to me.? ?Also the ride and handling were both very good.? ?Not a lot of weight was required to balance them either.<br>
Good luck!Todd Heimer<br>
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 20:43:47 -0400<br>
From: "Keith Park" <<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span>><br>
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Not those, but SO FAR, I haven?t had issue with the Nexen's I put on the<br>
front of the square, we'll see how they feel on the rear when the Federals<br>
finally wear<br>
Out back there. Havent put the Nexen's thru a frog choking gullywasher yet<br>
either.<br>
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Keith<br>
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Topnotch Restorations<br>
<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span><br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.topnotchresto.com">http://www.topnotchresto.com</a><br>
71 Squareback? ?Hothe?<br>
65 Notchback? ?El Baja Rojo?<br>
93 RX7? ?Redstur?<br>
13 Subaru?Outback?"Blendin"<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: type3-vwtype3.org <<span class="wt_Email">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</span><span></span>> On<br>
Behalf Of Jim Adney<br>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 9:44 AM<br>
To: <span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span><br>
Subject: [T3] Tires for Type 3s?<br>
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It's been a LONG time since I could buy my favorite Michelin 165SR15 XZX<br>
tires, and our size has completely disappeared from all the major tire<br>
makers' <br>
lineups. Since then, we've all been scrambling for a reasonable alternative.<br>
<br>
Everything now available seems to come from S. Korea or SE Asia.<br>
<br>
Richard Spryer and I have been looking together and both of us found the<br>
Americus Touring Plus All-Season Tire - 165/80R15 87T. It's available here:<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="https://tiresshipped2you.com/collections/americus">https://tiresshipped2you.com/collections/americus</a><br>
<br>
Price is an extremely reasonable US$62.60 each, with free shipping.<br>
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Does anyone have any experience with these?<br>
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 20:51:24 -0400<br>
From: "Keith Park" <<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span>><br>
To: <<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] Rust & Mouse Proofing<br>
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Never tried this, bounce drier sheets seem to work against the mice, but<br>
those are not bulletproof.<br>
The 20W50 is great undercoating but does need re-application every fall, or<br>
at least a touch up. I suspect<br>
Some of the professional products are better so long as they are oil based<br>
and can seep into the crusty rust, encapsulants<br>
Or things that cover it up like rubberized undercoating just trap the<br>
inevitable salt that does get in.<br>
<br>
And the oil application not only makes an ungodly mess, the applicator also<br>
needs 2 showers afterward!<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
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Topnotch Restorations<br>
<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span><br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.topnotchresto.com">http://www.topnotchresto.com</a><br>
71 Squareback? ?Hothe?<br>
65 Notchback? ?El Baja Rojo?<br>
93 RX7? ?Redstur?<br>
13 Subaru?Outback?"Blendin"<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: type3-vwtype3.org <<span class="wt_Email">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</span><span></span>> On<br>
Behalf Of Jim Adney<br>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 9:44 AM<br>
To: <span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span><br>
Subject: [T3] Rust & Mouse Proofing<br>
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Keith,<br>
<br>
I know you have your own rustproofing routine, but here's a company that<br>
makes some special rustproofing products that can also be bought with an<br>
anti-mouse ingredient.<br>
<br>
Have you heard of these guys? They make rustproofing, here:<br>
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<a target="_blank" href="https://nhoilundercoating.com/product/car-truck-undercoating/">https://nhoilundercoating.com/product/car-truck-undercoating/</a><br>
<br>
and mouseproofing/rustproofing, here:<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="https://nhoilundercoating.com/how-to-keep-mice-out-of-your-atv/">https://nhoilundercoating.com/how-to-keep-mice-out-of-your-atv/</a><br>
<br>
I wonder if this stuff also works against larger rodents.<br>
<br>
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 20:54:04 -0400<br>
From: "Keith Park" <<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span>><br>
To: <<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] Tires for Type 3s?<br>
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I have them on the Notch, Sean is right... excellent tires, except perhaps in the cold. They have a very low treadwear rating <br>
So I didn?t go for them on the Square as I put a lot of miles on that on the highway and for what I paid, I didn?t want a set to wear out that fast.<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
<br>
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<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span><br>
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71 Squareback ?Hothe?<br>
65 Notchback ?El Baja Rojo?<br>
93 RX7 ?Redstur?<br>
13 Subaru Outback "Blendin"<br>
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From: type3-vwtype3.org <<span class="wt_Email">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</span><span></span>> On Behalf Of Sean Bartnik<br>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 9:52 AM<br>
To: <span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] Tires for Type 3s?<br>
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Jim,<br>
No experience with the Americus but don?t forget about the Vredestein Sprint Classic. They are available in the correct size, they look the part, they are made in the Netherlands, and they are a great-handling tire. They are definitely more expensive though, at $150/tire at Tire Rack.<br>
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>On May 18, 2023, at 9:43 AM, Jim Adney <<span class="wt_Email">jadney@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>> wrote:<br>
<br>
It's been a LONG time since I could buy my favorite Michelin 165SR15 <br>
XZX tires, and our size has completely disappeared from all the major tire makers'<br>
lineups. Since then, we've all been scrambling for a reasonable alternative. <br>
Everything now available seems to come from S. Korea or SE Asia.<br>
<br>
Richard Spryer and I have been looking together and both of us found <br>
the Americus Touring Plus All-Season Tire - 165/80R15 87T. It's available here:<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="https://tiresshipped2you.com/collections/americus">https://tiresshipped2you.com/collections/americus</a><br>
<br>
Price is an extremely reasonable US$62.60 each, with free shipping.<br>
<br>
Does anyone have any experience with these?<br>
<br>
--<br>
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Jim Adney, <span class="wt_Email">jadney@vwtype3.org</span><span></span><br>
Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br>
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 20:55:32 -0400<br>
From: "Keith Park" <<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span>><br>
To: <<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] Tires for Type 3s?<br>
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Sara was also running the Vred's on Marigold, if anyone see's her maybe she<br>
can relate her experience as she drove that car a lot.<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
<br>
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71 Squareback? ?Hothe?<br>
65 Notchback? ?El Baja Rojo?<br>
93 RX7? ?Redstur?<br>
13 Subaru?Outback?"Blendin"<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: type3-vwtype3.org <<span class="wt_Email">type3-vwtype3.org-bounces@lists.vwtype3.org</span><span></span>> On<br>
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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 11:11 AM<br>
To: <span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] Tires for Type 3s?<br>
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On 18 May 2023 at 9:51, Sean Bartnik wrote:<br>
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>No experience with the Americus but donTMt forget about the Vredestein <br>
Sprint Classic.<br>
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I saw those on Jessica & Daniel's '69 and wasn't impressed. The tread was<br>
more of a mud/snow tire than anything else and I believe they had worn about<br>
half way down in very few miles. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.<br>
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 08:18:56 -0500<br>
From: "Jim Adney" <<span class="wt_Email">jadney@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
To: <span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] Tires for Type 3s?<br>
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On 18 May 2023 at 11:26, Sean Bartnik wrote:<br>
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>I donTMt think ITMd describe the tread as a mud/snow type but it is<br>
oevintage? in appearance and reminds me of the dear departed XZX in<br>
that way. <br>
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This makes me wonder if we're talking about two different Vredestein tires.<br>
<br>
Could you send me a photo of your tread, so I can compare with my <br>
memory? Direct email please; the email list does not accept attachments.<br>
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