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 1. only leaks oil in the winter (Keith Park)<br>
 2. Re: only leaks oil in the winter (<span class="wt_Email">jadney@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>)<br>
 3. VW AM/FM Radio (Gary Forsmo)<br>
 4. Re: VW AM/FM Radio (Jim Adney)<br>
 5. Re: VW AM/FM Radio (Gary Forsmo)<br>
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 20:23:54 -0400<br>
From: "Keith Park" <<span class="wt_Email">topnotch@nycap.rr.com</span><span></span>><br>
To: <<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
Subject: [T3] only leaks oil in the winter<br>
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Im using the DT50 synth in the Squares 2056, as per the designers spec. Im<br>
no fan of synth oils but this was specifically designed for<br>
<br>
Air cooleds and Im happy with it, but oddly enough, it leaves a nice puddle<br>
under it by spring time but doesn't leak a drop over the summer months.<br>
<br>
 <br>
<br>
I would think that the thicker oil in the winter would be less likely to<br>
leak, yea, it sits, but still. that thin summer oil, especially after<br>
shutdown I would think would leak more easily but it doesn't.<br>
<br>
 <br>
<br>
Are the laws of Physics reversed with the Synth oils?<br>
<br>
 <br>
<br>
They seem to be in force with oil pressure, the fresh oil always has a bit<br>
poorer pressure than it does when you get a thousand miles or so on it <br>
<br>
And the contaminates thicken it a bit.<br>
<br>
 <br>
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Anybody else have their winter leaks fix themselves in the summer?<br>
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Keith<br>
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On 29 Aug 2023 at 20:23, Keith Park wrote:<br>
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>Are the laws of Physics reversed with the Synth oils?<br>
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I don't think so, at least not in this corner of the multiverse.<br>
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>From the location of the puddle, can you tell us from where the oil is leaking? Elastomers <br>
</td></tr></tbody></table>tend to shrink more than metals when cold, so think rubber seals: pushrod tube seals, oil <br>
filter seal, oil cooler seals, or front and rear crank seals.... <br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 11:28:21 -0500<br>
From: Gary Forsmo <<span class="wt_Email">gbforsmo@gmail.com</span><span></span>><br>
To: "<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>" <<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
Subject: [T3] VW AM/FM Radio<br>
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I inherited an untested AM/FM car radio.<br>
<br>
The intent was to install the radio in my one-owner, '69 Type 3 Squareback<br>
which has an original Sapphire (AM only) radio<br>
<br>
There are tags & numbers attached to or stamped on the metal carcass that<br>
say:<br>
<br>
1.) "Designed and built exclusively for Volkswagen ?n the United States of<br>
America by Motorola Inc."<br>
2.) Another paper tag says: "5VW3916 VOLKSWAGEN"<br>
3.) Another: "15D41284E-01"<br>
4.) Another: "Mod. 5VW3916<br>
SER. 9285 ... 6504"<br>
5.) Another: AM??FM KOSUB"<br>
6.) Another: An unreadable paper tag,<br>
and finally,<br>
7.) "15D41286EO"<br>
<br>
A.) I've attempted to research each of those tags or numbers with no<br>
results as to what year, model, or body style they fit.<br>
<br>
B.) It appears that the plastic mount that held the "under dash"(?) radio,<br>
is at a pretty severe angle so the face would be plumb & level.<br>
<br>
C.) There are two leads (Red & Gray) that are the + and -- power wires AND<br>
4 other dual wires (black & black with a white tracer) that I believe to be<br>
Right & Left Speaker wire for stereo. ???<br>
<br>
Those 6 wires are "female", housed in a 6-pin plastic connector.<br>
<br>
Since 10 or more Radio Shack stores in our Madison, WI area are<br>
"Permanently Closed", I have been unable to find a supplier that may be<br>
able to sell me the "male", 6-pin connector counterpart.<br>
<br>
Each of the 6-pin, female connectors measure .081" or 2.07mm ID.<br>
<br>
Do any of our Type 3.org members have any thoughts or suggestions how I can<br>
resurrect this AM/FM radio?<br>
<br>
WHEW!<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:51:49 -0500<br>
From: "Jim Adney" <<span class="wt_Email">jadney@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
To: <span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] VW AM/FM Radio<br>
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You might try the guy at this site, as he seems to know early VW Sapphire <br>
radios pretty well. The radio you have must be much later and does not <br>
seem to be a Sapphire. (Does it say anything on the dial?) Nevertheless, he <br>
may be able to help you.<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="https://5060vwradio.myfreesites.net/sapphire-radios">https://5060vwradio.myfreesites.net/sapphire-radios</a><br>
<br>
In the past, I've also come across other sites that cover a range of VW "OE" <br>
radios. There's also this thread on thesamba:<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/index.php/o-t--t-111350--.html">https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/index.php/o-t--t-111350--.html</a><br>
<br>
Beyond that, you could look for Molex connectors to see if they have <br>
anything like what you need, but Molex connectors tend to be rectangular, <br>
while the message you sent me mentioned a circular (DIN?) connector.<br>
<br>
You big problem is going to be what to butcher to install stereo speakers. <br>
Please don't consider installing in the doors! If you want FM, look for a <br>
non-stereo AM/FM Sapphire that should be a drop-in installation.<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
On 30 Aug 2023 at 11:28, Gary Forsmo wrote:<br>
<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>I inherited an untested AM/FM car radio.<br>
<br>
The intent was to install the radio in my one-owner, '69 Type 3 Squareback<br>
which has an original Sapphire (AM only) radio<br>
<br>
There are tags & numbers attached to or stamped on the metal carcass that<br>
say:<br>
<br>
1.) "Designed and built exclusively for Volkswagen ?n the United States of<br>
America by Motorola Inc."<br>
2.) Another paper tag says: "5VW3916 VOLKSWAGEN"<br>
3.) Another: "15D41284E-01"<br>
4.) Another: "Mod. 5VW3916<br>
SER. 9285 ... 6504"<br>
5.) Another: AMooFM KOSUB"<br>
6.) Another: An unreadable paper tag,<br>
and finally,<br>
7.) "15D41286EO"<br>
<br>
A.) I've attempted to research each of those tags or numbers with no<br>
results as to what year, model, or body style they fit.<br>
<br>
B.) It appears that the plastic mount that held the "under dash"(?) radio,<br>
is at a pretty severe angle so the face would be plumb & level.<br>
<br>
C.) There are two leads (Red & Gray) that are the + and -- power wires AND<br>
4 other dual wires (black & black with a white tracer) that I believe to be<br>
Right & Left Speaker wire for stereo. ???<br>
<br>
Those 6 wires are "female", housed in a 6-pin plastic connector.<br>
<br>
Since 10 or more Radio Shack stores in our Madison, WI area are<br>
"Permanently Closed", I have been unable to find a supplier that may be<br>
able to sell me the "male", 6-pin connector counterpart.<br>
<br>
Each of the 6-pin, female connectors measure .081" or 2.07mm ID.<br>
<br>
Do any of our Type 3.org members have any thoughts or suggestions how I can<br>
resurrect this AM/FM radio?<br>
<br>
WHEW!<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:35:23 -0500<br>
From: Gary Forsmo <<span class="wt_Email">gbforsmo@gmail.com</span><span></span>><br>
To: "<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>" <<span class="wt_Email">type3@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>><br>
Subject: Re: [T3] VW AM/FM Radio<br>
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Jim - (to your response)<br>
<br>
The 6-pin, plastic connector on the AM/FM radio IS rectangular ... not<br>
round.<br>
<br>
I found a company that sells a 12" loop with 6-pin, male/female connectors<br>
on the end of the wires.<br>
But the ID, female metal connector on my AM/FM radio is appreciably smaller<br>
than any connectors that I've found online.<br>
<br>
But ...<br>
1. removing the existing female connector &<br>
2.) doing a little "surgery" on the existing wires and<br>
3.) installing the female half of the 12" connectors "loop" on the radio &<br>
the other male half to the 12-volt in the dash,<br>
4.) I should have working AM/FM radio in the Squareback.<br>
<br>
To date, there is *nothing* that would convince me to "cobble up" & mount<br>
the speakers in the original '69 door panels.<br>
<br>
You know I'm a dyed-in-the-wool "stocker"! ?<br>
<br>
On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:52 PM Jim Adney <<span class="wt_Email">jadney@vwtype3.org</span><span></span>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>You might try the guy at this site, as he seems to know early VW Sapphire<br>
radios pretty well. The radio you have must be much later and does not<br>
seem to be a Sapphire. (Does it say anything on the dial?) Nevertheless,<br>
he<br>
may be able to help you.<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="https://5060vwradio.myfreesites.net/sapphire-radios">https://5060vwradio.myfreesites.net/sapphire-radios</a><br>
<br>
In the past, I've also come across other sites that cover a range of VW<br>
"OE"<br>
radios. There's also this thread on thesamba:<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/index.php/o-t--t-111350--.html">https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/index.php/o-t--t-111350--.html</a><br>
<br>
Beyond that, you could look for Molex connectors to see if they have<br>
anything like what you need, but Molex connectors tend to be rectangular,<br>
while the message you sent me mentioned a circular (DIN?) connector.<br>
<br>
You big problem is going to be what to butcher to install stereo speakers.<br>
Please don't consider installing in the doors! If you want FM, look for a<br>
non-stereo AM/FM Sapphire that should be a drop-in installation.<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
On 30 Aug 2023 at 11:28, Gary Forsmo wrote:<br>
<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>I inherited an untested AM/FM car radio.<br>
<br>
The intent was to install the radio in my one-owner, '69 Type 3<br>
</td></tr></tbody></table>Squareback<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>which has an original Sapphire (AM only) radio<br>
<br>
There are tags & numbers attached to or stamped on the metal carcass that<br>
say:<br>
<br>
1.) "Designed and built exclusively for Volkswagen ?n the United States<br>
</td></tr></tbody></table>of<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>America by Motorola Inc."<br>
2.) Another paper tag says: "5VW3916 VOLKSWAGEN"<br>
3.) Another: "15D41284E-01"<br>
4.) Another: "Mod. 5VW3916<br>
SER. 9285 ... 6504"<br>
5.) Another: AMooFM KOSUB"<br>
6.) Another: An unreadable paper tag,<br>
and finally,<br>
7.) "15D41286EO"<br>
<br>
A.) I've attempted to research each of those tags or numbers with no<br>
results as to what year, model, or body style they fit.<br>
<br>
B.) It appears that the plastic mount that held the "under dash"(?)<br>
</td></tr></tbody></table>radio,<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>is at a pretty severe angle so the face would be plumb & level.<br>
<br>
C.) There are two leads (Red & Gray) that are the + and -- power wires<br>
</td></tr></tbody></table>AND<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>4 other dual wires (black & black with a white tracer) that I believe to<br>
</td></tr></tbody></table>be<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>Right & Left Speaker wire for stereo. ???<br>
<br>
Those 6 wires are "female", housed in a 6-pin plastic connector.<br>
<br>
Since 10 or more Radio Shack stores in our Madison, WI area are<br>
"Permanently Closed", I have been unable to find a supplier that may be<br>
able to sell me the "male", 6-pin connector counterpart.<br>
<br>
Each of the 6-pin, female connectors measure .081" or 2.07mm ID.<br>
<br>
Do any of our Type 3.org members have any thoughts or suggestions how I<br>
</td></tr></tbody></table>can<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>resurrect this AM/FM radio?<br>
<br>
WHEW!<br>
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