[T3] Rattling shifter

Bryon Garvin spinningrooves at gmail.com
Mon Feb 7 09:36:57 PST 2011


If I am not having trouble shifting or finding gears, then should I just
leave the stop plate where it is?  I moved it around and it *didn't *get rid
of the sound and it *didn't *make shifting harder.  I could find all gears
no matter where the stop plate was.  So I moved it back to the center.  What
is the proper procedure for adjusting the stop plate?  The Bentley was
somewhat vague.

I do get some rattle/chatter on the stick occasionally when I start from a
dead stop.  Is there a stiffer grease that I should be using in the shift
rod socket to damped that vibration better?  The only moly grease I had on
hand was disc brake grease which I used.  But it doesn't seem to be as stiff
as the stuff that was in there originally.

Thanks,

 - Bryon, '71 Fastback



On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Dave Hall <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk> wrote:

> If it's all the time the car is moving and not when idling, I'd guess it
> was
> better transmission of the final drive noise due to the tighter linkages.
>  A
> bit of pressure on the gearstick might be pre-loading something that means
> the vibrations get absorbed, but it's not good to drive with pre-load on
> the
> gearstick.  See how it goes when everything has settled in a bit - you will
> probably stop noticeing it or it may even go away.
>
> Dave.
> UK VW Type 3&4 Club
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> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Bryon
> Garvin
> Sent: 06 February 2011 20:16
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Rattling shifter
>
> Ok, it's all back together and a quick thank you to everyone that offered
> up
> help and ideas on replacing the bushing.  It all went pretty well.  For me,
> I found it easiest to pull the rod out, put the bushing and snap ring on at
> the end of the shift rod where it was a thinner diameter, seat the bushing
> in the bracket and then have my friend push the rod back in from the front
> while I was in the car making sure it all stayed in place.  The bushing
> expanded into the bracket and it was smooth sailing after the rod has been
> lightly greased.
>
> I then took it for a drive and it shifts very well, but I am getting a
> strange noise that seems to be coming from right under the shifter.  It's
> kind of a high-pitched whine (as best I can describe it).  It is present in
> all gears, even neutral, and disappears when the car is not moving.  Moving
> the shifter around a little sometimes can dampen it.  Is this due to the
> stop plate not being adjusted properly?  If it weren't for the noise, I'd
> say it's all back together just fine.
>
> I did replace the plastic pieces in the coupler as well as the shift rod
> bushing, obviously.  I am wondering if those new parts are making the whole
> system much tighter and I'm now getting some transfer of vibration down the
> rod.
>
> I'm hesitant to move the shift stop plate because I don't seem to have
> problems shifting.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
>  - Bryon, '71 Fastback
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Russ W <russw at classicvw.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2/5/2011 4:17 PM, Bryon Garvin wrote:
> >
> >> Just about done with the job....putting it all back together.  Does
> >> the stop plate have to be in any particular place as far as forward
> >> or backward?
> >> I
> >> see that it slides forward and back a tiny bit in the elliptical
> >> holes.  I know about the tabs, so its already installed the correct
> >> way with regard to that.
> >>
> >> - Bryon, '71 Fsstback
> >>
> >
> > Just install it pretty much centerly located for the first try.
> > Then adjust from there.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Russ Wolfe
> > russw at classicvw.org
> >
> >
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