[T3] Newbie with dumb questions.

Mon Jan 31 16:41:00 PST 2011

The ENGLISH are using liters and the Americans still use Gallons?  Just
seems there something wrong there!

I dug into the Aircooled technology forum today and found a quote from Jake
That states that the BEST they ever got from a 2056 was 27MPG, and 23-24 was
more like it on a broken in engine.

Jake's engine kits seem to have a lot of time spent getting all the stars
aligned just right so they don't overheat, and I sure spent a lot of time on
mine so I think there must be a magical aura around Mr. Vader there....  
:-)

Keith

Top Notch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com 
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71 Squareback "Hothe"
65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
87 golf "Winterat"
93 RX7 "Redstur"

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Dave Hall
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:15 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.

Lovely thought, that along with the man-sized turbo stuff, Brian is using
man-sized gallons.  ;-)

Confession - we now refuel with piddling litres here, and they're about $2
each.

What with Brian's huge mpg and Russ producing excellent figures too, the
rest of us including VW are doing something wrong!  

I trust these guys, so what's the reason?  Do your odometers match the
highway mileages?  No funny things happening with tyre sizes?

Dave.
VW Type 3&4 Club
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Keith Park
Sent: 30 January 2011 01:02
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.

You sure your not looking at imperial gallons?
With all the testing and setup Jake has done on his 2056's he doesn't get
near those numbers, and Im sure he's tried everything.

Top Notch Restorations
topnotch at nycap.rr.com
http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
71 Squareback "Hothe"
65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
87 golf "Winterat"
93 RX7 "Redstur"

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[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian Fye
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:54 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.

Keith,
These are the real MPG numbers from my engines:
1904cc w/40 webers 31mpg freeway/city
2110cc w/40 webers 29.5 mpg freeway/city
2332cc w/48 dells 28 mpg freeway/city and 31.5 mpg all freeway at 65mph

it can be done...

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> I don't think so... even with stock CARBS, the T3 gets in the upper 20's,
> with twice the HP and torque, the gas mileage is gonna go down, you don't
> get something for nothing...
>
> Until you go to the REAL modern engine technology, and even then there are
> limits.
>
> Keith
>
>
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Fye
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:28 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.
>
> I bet I can get better thih carbs!
>
> On 1/29/11, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> > Yes, but that's the lovely thing with FI... you can make it as lean or
> rich
> > as you want, so I set it up to the AFR that I wanted and where it ran
> right.
> > I did try slightly higher and lower AFR's on highway trips and the gas
> > mileage only changed by 1mpg at most.
> >
> > AFR is AFR no matter how you get there, FI or Carbs, correct?
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > Top Notch Restorations
> > topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> > http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> > 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> > 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> > 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> > 87 golf "Winterat"
> > 93 RX7 "Redstur"
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> > [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Fye
> > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:22 PM
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: Re: [T3] Newbie with dumb questions.
> >
> > Keith... was that with FI?  Send that pig to me and let me set up some
> carbs
> > on it for you!
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> And Ill promise not to whine about how my 2056 got 22MPG AT BEST.
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> I'll remember not to tell Keith my 2332 gets 29-31 mpg on carbs...
> >>
> >> The only concern I would have with a 1775cc is if you are running
really
> >> high CR for the cam in it or low end fuel with a heavy car/load.  The
> 90.5
> >> cylinders are thick walled and really don't have any issues.  I've lost
> >> track of what cam you are running.  If the cam is stockish, stay below
> >> 8.7:1
> >> CR.  If the cam is stock, the 1775 will run nicely with the D-Jet and
> some
> >> t4 1.8L injectors.  I've a buddy that is running this set up and loves
> it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Canyonville Christian Academy
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