[T3] type3-vwtype3.org Digest, Vol 4, Issue 21

Bernhard Harley bernlize at absamail.co.za
Mon Jan 17 10:30:59 PST 2011 

To whom it may concern

I am busy restoring a 1969 1600 TL Fastback. Can you please assist me with
the following rubbers:
1. Front windscreen rubber - must take the chrome beading
2. Rear window rubber - also suitable for the chrome beading
3. L-H & R-H rear window rubbers. 
Thank you
Bernard

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Charging issue still (Dave Hall)
   2. "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR (Gary Forsmo)
   3. Re: "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR (Jim Adney)
   4. Re: third geat test (Jim Adney)
   5. Re: "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR (Dave Hall)
   6. Re: "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR (Bryon Garvin)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:07:51 -0000
From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] Charging issue still
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If there's a poor connection between the main battery connections - perhaps
due to corrosion, grease or something - it's possible that the resistance is
gradually increasing during operation.  I had a situation where I had put
copper grease on starter terminals and after a few days the starter wouldn't
turn the engine over.  Cleaning the connections back to metal and leaving
out the grease cured it permanently.  I've also had misfires when using a
dab of copper grease on spark plug threads.  

Dave,
UK VW Type 3&4 Club.
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[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Tim
Keohane
Sent: 14 January 2011 17:15
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] Charging issue still

I rechecked the generator mounting, and found the alignment less than the
width of the dimple on the  strap off. ( 1mm ) I'll correct that, however it
seems too small to create a heating issue. Yes Jim I have your charging fact
sheet and will recheck everything again. I will also repeat my drive from a
few days back without any load except the clock and the fuel pump and any
other draws necessary for the car to run. ( coil, fuel injectors, dist. etc
) The generator is a re- manufactured bosch # 311 903 031. I see on the
commutator (?), where the brushes ride, a ledge indicating wear. The groves
are still very visible and are deeper than the ledge is tall by many
factors. The brushes are protruding above the holder brackets and the spring
(s) seems plenty strong.
The voltage regulator is not bosch and I have some reservations regarding
that component. I'm not sure I can envision a situation where the V R would
drop as the temp. went up. Does anyone have any comments on the new style
bosch electronic V R ?
I'd like to get this solved as my transmission is debating itself as to what
gear it should be in and when.
Thanks Tim
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:51:50 -0600
From: Gary Forsmo <gbforsmo at gmail.com>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR
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Opinion and experience?

I'm a "newbie" here, but always learning from these discussions.

"What's the feeling about the original style vs. the Solid State VR?"  Jim,
I believe you installed an original (mechanical?) style VR instead of the
Solid State VR in my '69 Variant.  Dependable operation and longevity ...
which one seems to be favored?  Or is the solid state VR "too new" to have
stood the test of time?  Of the list members, are most of us still running
the original style?

Another (unrelated) question: Do any list/members live near Burwell,
Cambridgeshire, England CB25 0AH?
Frito
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:30:55 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR
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On 15 Jan 2011 at 19:51, Gary Forsmo wrote:

> "What's the feeling about the original style vs. the Solid State VR?"
Jim,
> I believe you installed an original (mechanical?) style VR instead of the
> Solid State VR in my '69 Variant.  Dependable operation and longevity ...
> which one seems to be favored?  Or is the solid state VR "too new" to have
> stood the test of time?  Of the list members, are most of us still running
> the original style?

A couple people here have the new ones, but I've never dealt with 
them. I need to try one. I'll bet they work just fine, but I'm 
annoyed by the fact that the whole cover is electrically hot. This 
means that letting a seat belt slip down there could lead to 
something really exciting. I don't see why that would be necessary, 
because done properly there should be no need for much of a heat 
sink, which is what Bosch appears to be doing here.

-- 
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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:41:07 -0600
From: "Jim Adney" <jadney at vwtype3.org>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] third geat test
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On 12 Jan 2011 at 0:58, Fred Simmons wrote:

> i have seen occasional mention of a ''third gear test '' on the list.
> what is it and what's it testing.

I'm not sure what this might refer to, but it's possible that it's 
talking about a rather old technique for cleaning up fouled spark 
plugs. The method was to run up to the red line in each gear until 
the engine started missing and to just slowly push the speed higher 
as the miss slowly went away.

Do this up to the red line, then upshift and repeat. Eventually, 
you'll get to a gear where the engine runs well but just won't go any 
faster. In third, you should be able to hit the red line well before 
you hit your car's top speed.

If you have a miss that just won't go away with this process, then 
you have to start looking at other things.

IIRC, I first saw this mentioned in Road & Track many years ago, 
referred to as an "Italian Tuneup." If you're Italian, I hope you'll 
accept this as the humor in which it was intended.

-- 
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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:55:03 -0000
From: "Dave Hall" <dave at hallvw.clara.co.uk>
To: <type3 at vwtype3.org>
Subject: Re: [T3] "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR
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What qualifies as 'near'?  Nowhere in England is all that far - less than a
day's drive anyway.

If you are looking for Type 3 enthusiasts in the UK you would find more on
the VW club forum at www.vwtype3and4club.org.uk and I would guess someone is
within 10 or 20 miles.

What specific interest do you have for that address, Frito?

Dave.
UK VW Type3&4 club.
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Forsmo
Sent: 16 January 2011 01:52
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: [T3] "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR

Opinion and experience?

I'm a "newbie" here, but always learning from these discussions.

"What's the feeling about the original style vs. the Solid State VR?"  Jim,
I believe you installed an original (mechanical?) style VR instead of the
Solid State VR in my '69 Variant.  Dependable operation and longevity ...
which one seems to be favored?  Or is the solid state VR "too new" to have
stood the test of time?  Of the list members, are most of us still running
the original style?

Another (unrelated) question: Do any list/members live near Burwell,
Cambridgeshire, England CB25 0AH?
Frito
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:16:42 -0800
From: Bryon Garvin <spinningrooves at gmail.com>
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] "Correct" Bosch vs."new" Solid State VR
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I have a new one and so far so good.  I too am slightly worried about the
cover being hot but so far no problems.  There is a piece of heavy paper
that seems to be original and folds over the VR and would possibly save you
from something coming in contact briefly.  My son sits in the back all the
time and sometimes with his friend.  So far the pressure from the seat
springs has not caused a problem.

- Bryon, '71 Fastback
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