[T3] Toby's engine...

[Keith Park]

Very interesting.

But the million dollar question is... WHY?  Did something work its way into
that oil passage and block oil from that one bearing?  Or maybe did
something get dislodged in the oil system when Toby had things apart in the
parking lot?

How did that #3 cylinder look?

How many miles did Toby have on this build?

Its good to hear that everything didn't get trashed though, although stroker
cranks can be pricey.

Keith


Top Notch Restorations
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-----Original Message-----
From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian Fye
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:45 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Toby's engine...

Alright...  Spun crank bearing!  The one that is closest to the flywheel...
the oiling hole is ovaled out with spurs/barbs/deformation.
The other bearings all look great, so I will pull off the spun (seized to
the crank) and see how badly the crank was scored.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Oh this is interesting.  Something with the #3?  One thing I noticed on
the
> Crate's engine was that despite being run out of oil, the cylinders and
> pistons have very little scoring on them from the event. I don't know if
> that engine ever really seized but the bearings were ground up a bit and
> the
> center main knocked on startup.
>
> At least the more good stuff you find the less Toby has to replace.
>
> The Plot thickens...
>
> Keith
>
>
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Fye
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:03 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: [T3] Toby's engine...
>
> I am now into Toby's engine. I am down to the short block and the crank
> still will not turn (as suspected it wouldn't). I have removed the
> distributor drive gear, the oil pump, the heads, cylinders and pistons.
All
> of this shows no odd signs of breakage, or other issues that would have
> caused the engine to stop spinning. The oil pump drive gear has a lot of
> slop in it, but it still engages.
> My next step will be to loosen the case halves and see if the crank starts
> to spin at all. If it does, it will be a bearing on the crank.
>
> Things are more interesting. I can not get the #3 barrel to release off
the
> case. The #1, 2 and 4 pistons/barrels/rods are off the shortblock, but #3
> is completel stuck for the moment. I do not know if I have a rod bearing
> locked up or if it is a crank bearing because I can't get this silly thing
> off.
> I removed all the case bolts and rapped on the case with a rubber mallet
to
> see if I could get the crank to move at all, and still nada.
>
> My new years resolution is to have this thing apart by the time things
turn
> back into pumpkins tonight. If so, I can get back to my stuff!
> --
> Brian Fye
> Canyonville Christian Academy
> 541 839 4401 ext. 110
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