[T3] Toby's engine...

[Brian Fye]

His crank can be turned, no problem.  I've seen bearings spin in 50 miles
on other folks engines.  Toby's had 25k + miles on it and he abused that
thing!  I'm going to put air to the oiling hole and see if it is clogged.
The case was a new brazilian magnesium that Rick Taylor used.  The lifters
are PERFECT, the cam has no wear and the rods hang within spec.  This is a
very salvageable set up.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Very interesting.
>
> But the million dollar question is... WHY?  Did something work its way into
> that oil passage and block oil from that one bearing?  Or maybe did
> something get dislodged in the oil system when Toby had things apart in the
> parking lot?
>
> How did that #3 cylinder look?
>
> How many miles did Toby have on this build?
>
> Its good to hear that everything didn't get trashed though, although
> stroker
> cranks can be pricey.
>
> Keith
>
>
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Fye
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:45 PM
> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Toby's engine...
>
> Alright...  Spun crank bearing!  The one that is closest to the flywheel...
> the oiling hole is ovaled out with spurs/barbs/deformation.
> The other bearings all look great, so I will pull off the spun (seized to
> the crank) and see how badly the crank was scored.
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh this is interesting.  Something with the #3?  One thing I noticed on
> the
> > Crate's engine was that despite being run out of oil, the cylinders and
> > pistons have very little scoring on them from the event. I don't know if
> > that engine ever really seized but the bearings were ground up a bit and
> > the
> > center main knocked on startup.
> >
> > At least the more good stuff you find the less Toby has to replace.
> >
> > The Plot thickens...
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > Top Notch Restorations
> > topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> > http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> > 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> > 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> > 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> > 87 golf "Winterat"
> > 93 RX7 "Redstur"
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
> > [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> > Fye
> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 4:03 PM
> > To: type3 at vwtype3.org
> > Subject: [T3] Toby's engine...
> >
> > I am now into Toby's engine. I am down to the short block and the crank
> > still will not turn (as suspected it wouldn't). I have removed the
> > distributor drive gear, the oil pump, the heads, cylinders and pistons.
> All
> > of this shows no odd signs of breakage, or other issues that would have
> > caused the engine to stop spinning. The oil pump drive gear has a lot of
> > slop in it, but it still engages.
> > My next step will be to loosen the case halves and see if the crank
> starts
> > to spin at all. If it does, it will be a bearing on the crank.
> >
> > Things are more interesting. I can not get the #3 barrel to release off
> the
> > case. The #1, 2 and 4 pistons/barrels/rods are off the shortblock, but #3
> > is completel stuck for the moment. I do not know if I have a rod bearing
> > locked up or if it is a crank bearing because I can't get this silly
> thing
> > off.
> > I removed all the case bolts and rapped on the case with a rubber mallet
> to
> > see if I could get the crank to move at all, and still nada.
> >
> > My new years resolution is to have this thing apart by the time things
> turn
> > back into pumpkins tonight. If so, I can get back to my stuff!
> > --
> > Brian Fye
> > Canyonville Christian Academy
> > 541 839 4401 ext. 110
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Brian Fye
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