[T3] Notch Running hot.

[Brian Fye]

Keith, I'm actually not recommending that... I just want to see your
numbers, as I do not see any temps below 250 on a synthetic as an issue.

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Yea, Im a Dino man too but the Brad Penn has been recommended and I cant
> find ZDDP Dino in the ligher grades. Ill have to find some of the additive,
> and make my own Dino at the right viscosity.
>
> I mean, Hothe has 130Kmi on it now, and granted Im using 25W50 but it still
> has decent oil pressure and runs great with nothing but Pennzoil in it its
> whole life.
>
> Keith
>
>
> Top Notch Restorations
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
> 87 golf "Winterat"
> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [T3] Notch Running hot.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/3/2012 9:41:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> topnotch at nycap.rr.com writes:
>
> Got the  Notch out on the highway today for the first time in a while, and
> the first  time with the Brad Penn semi synthetic.
> Well. once on the highway it  started heating up faster than I left the
> Fulton county courthouse with new  plates in my hands (GAA 2128, I don't
> think there are any engine builds  that size so it should look OK on the
> crate)  Its running at least 20  degrees hotter than it did with the Dino
> oil, and the pressure is also much  less. very much like what happened when
> I
> used the Amzoil nearly 25 years  ago, only not nearly to that extreme.  Big
> changes in temperatures at  the cooler with different RPM's too. I think
> those "8 little oil coolers"  as Russ used to call the pushrod tubes rely
> on
> the oil to transfer the heat  to them efficiently and the semi Synth just
> doesn't do that in the same way  as the Dino.  At low RPM's it doesn't run
> too hot but at high RPM's  when there is more flow the heat doesn't
> transfer
> as well and the oil  remains hot when it gets too and leaves the cooler.
>
> Not sure if this is  the whole picture but Im surprised that nobody else
> has
> seen this with the  synth oils, maybe its because not many of us have oil
> temp gauges but wow,  what a difference.  Of course the car still runs fine
> and without the  gauge you'd never know its 20 degrees hotter.  Now I did
> the
> same  apples to apples comparison with the T4 engine and did NOT see the
> same
> results. it MAY have run 5 degrees colder with the dino but that's in  the
> noise really. maybe the different design or materials used tolerates  the
> synth oil better.
>
> Im going to give the Notch a good going over  tomorrow, pull the left tin,
> make sure nothing is living under there, check  the timing etc. but nothing
> has changed since I had the Dino oil in  there.  IT just ran hotter with
> the
> Brad Penn. 205 at the cooler  rather than the 180 - 185 it should have been
> and the resulting oil  pressure had the needle on the pin at idle coming
> off
> the highway, and  that's not acceptable for what is basically a new
>  engine.
>
>
>
> I guess I'm just really old school, in that I still use dino oil, and don't
>  have all of those fancy gauges (just the stock idiot lights). I do use
> GM's EOS  though, so I can get the ZDDP I need. And even out in Hays KS, I
> neve
> r got an  oil light to come on (after getting off the highway). I don't
> know
>
> IF it's  because I'm running 10W40 oil or not though. But then, that's all
> I use in my  other vehicles too. ;-)
>
> Bob 65 Notch  S with sunroof and IRS (Krusty)
> 64 T-34 Ghia  (Wolfie)
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