[T3] Notch Running hot.

[Brian Fye]

Ooops, I meant "not an issue" as long as head temps are good.

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Brian Fye <bfye at canyonville.net> wrote:

> Keith, I'm actually not recommending that... I just want to see your
> numbers, as I do not see any temps below 250 on a synthetic as an issue.
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Keith Park <topnotch at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Yea, Im a Dino man too but the Brad Penn has been recommended and I cant
>> find ZDDP Dino in the ligher grades. Ill have to find some of the
>> additive,
>> and make my own Dino at the right viscosity.
>>
>> I mean, Hothe has 130Kmi on it now, and granted Im using 25W50 but it
>> still
>> has decent oil pressure and runs great with nothing but Pennzoil in it its
>> whole life.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Top Notch Restorations
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com
>> http://www.a383ina68.addr.com/radiorest/main.htm
>> 71 Squareback "Hothe"
>> 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo"
>> 65 Squareback "Eggcrate"
>> 87 golf "Winterat"
>> 93 RX7 "Redstur"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
>> [mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bobsnotch at aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 10:41 AM
>> To: type3 at vwtype3.org
>> Subject: Re: [T3] Notch Running hot.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/3/2012 9:41:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> topnotch at nycap.rr.com writes:
>>
>> Got the  Notch out on the highway today for the first time in a while, and
>> the first  time with the Brad Penn semi synthetic.
>> Well. once on the highway it  started heating up faster than I left the
>> Fulton county courthouse with new  plates in my hands (GAA 2128, I don't
>> think there are any engine builds  that size so it should look OK on the
>> crate)  Its running at least 20  degrees hotter than it did with the Dino
>> oil, and the pressure is also much  less. very much like what happened
>> when
>> I
>> used the Amzoil nearly 25 years  ago, only not nearly to that extreme.
>>  Big
>> changes in temperatures at  the cooler with different RPM's too. I think
>> those "8 little oil coolers"  as Russ used to call the pushrod tubes rely
>> on
>> the oil to transfer the heat  to them efficiently and the semi Synth just
>> doesn't do that in the same way  as the Dino.  At low RPM's it doesn't run
>> too hot but at high RPM's  when there is more flow the heat doesn't
>> transfer
>> as well and the oil  remains hot when it gets too and leaves the cooler.
>>
>> Not sure if this is  the whole picture but Im surprised that nobody else
>> has
>> seen this with the  synth oils, maybe its because not many of us have oil
>> temp gauges but wow,  what a difference.  Of course the car still runs
>> fine
>> and without the  gauge you'd never know its 20 degrees hotter.  Now I did
>> the
>> same  apples to apples comparison with the T4 engine and did NOT see the
>> same
>> results. it MAY have run 5 degrees colder with the dino but that's in  the
>> noise really. maybe the different design or materials used tolerates  the
>> synth oil better.
>>
>> Im going to give the Notch a good going over  tomorrow, pull the left tin,
>> make sure nothing is living under there, check  the timing etc. but
>> nothing
>> has changed since I had the Dino oil in  there.  IT just ran hotter with
>> the
>> Brad Penn. 205 at the cooler  rather than the 180 - 185 it should have
>> been
>> and the resulting oil  pressure had the needle on the pin at idle coming
>> off
>> the highway, and  that's not acceptable for what is basically a new
>>  engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I'm just really old school, in that I still use dino oil, and
>> don't
>>  have all of those fancy gauges (just the stock idiot lights). I do use
>> GM's EOS  though, so I can get the ZDDP I need. And even out in Hays KS, I
>> neve
>> r got an  oil light to come on (after getting off the highway). I don't
>> know
>>
>> IF it's  because I'm running 10W40 oil or not though. But then, that's all
>> I use in my  other vehicles too. ;-)
>>
>> Bob 65 Notch  S with sunroof and IRS (Krusty)
>> 64 T-34 Ghia  (Wolfie)
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