[T3] Regulator going down again!

[Keith Park]

This is a different generator, I ditched the first one when that one brush
was so much more worn than the other.

The "ramp" on the brush is on the spring side, is the wrong?  I have no idea
who I got these brushes from but they were bought at one of the local shows.

Thanks,

Keith

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From: type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org
[mailto:type3-vwtype3.org-bounces at lists.vwtype3.org] On Behalf Of Jim Adney
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:22 PM
To: type3 at vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Regulator going down again!

On 15 May 2012 at 19:28, Keith Park wrote:

> Driving around town now in the rain, lights on, wipers on, and things are
> getting worse again.  No COLD generator light when I first start it like
> before but now the electronic Bosch regulator is starting to give an idle
> light, and this morning when I arrived at work I had to get it up close to
> 3K RPM with the lights and wipers OFF to get the generator light out!
Now,
> it IS charging at those RPM's even if the light is on but at idle its
almost
> as if its not full-fielding the generator when it should. Drove home, nice
> bright light even though it WAS charging and the system voltage was good,
> then, about half way the light would go out but a little while later its
on
> again and now its NOT charging unless I get about 3K RPM.  Got home,
> squeezed the brushes on the generator and all was well, so now it's the
> generator again!  These brushes are new and not worn down and this is one
of
> the 2 generators Ive been using with no problems for 20 years.
> 
> Is it possible that the regulator is damaging the generator?  This
generator
> still looks fine and both brushes still look/feel new but needed a squeeze
> to make good contact again after only about 1000 miles on them

I don't think the regulator can damage the generator unless it's 
putting out way more than 14 V. In that case, damage to the generator 
would be the very last thing on your mind.

I think you may have a generator problem that you don't recognize. 
Check the brush holders; make sure the brushes are free to slide in 
them. Replacement brushes also often have that little ramp at the top 
facing in the wrong direction. This will be the case if they sell the 
same brushes for both Type 1 and Type 3 engines.

And once again, I'm going to suggest that you check the field winding 
resistance. It should be ~4 Ohms, but the safest thing to do is to 
take it apart far enough that you can get to the center tap and 
compare the 2 sides. If they are not identical, one of them has some 
shorted turns, and that makes them hard to bootstrap into generating.

> Anybody have a set of 12V generator brushes they'd sell me without
charging
> me $10 in shipping to send them?  I need to rebuild another core I have if
> Im going to feel good about the invasion trip.

I'm sure I have some correct ones, but can't you find them locally?

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Jim Adney, jadney at vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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